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Topic: Are they still making for brandnew stuff?
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Adrian Winchester
Film God
Posts: 2941
From: Croydon, London, UK
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted December 11, 2005 11:07 AM
Winbert,
Not sure what you are saying here - the list I put up shows that some blockbusters are still being printed on 16mm in the USA, albeit probably in small quantities. They are for libraries, but it seems doubtful whether 16mm prints have been used for theatrical release anywhere for some time, although it's possible that it might happen in a country like India.
If you are thinking of 16mm prints of modern features being produced for sale, it's not happening, but it never did happen (at least legally).
I couldn't say what the cost price of printing a feature is, but it must be a lot - I heard a while back that in view of the small quantities, it might be cheaper to print on 35mm! You can get some idea via the dealers selling new prints on 16mm, e.g. trailers from Robbies Reels tend to be around $40 and a one reeler from Derann is around £60 and a 1,300' reel of Race Night films is £300. If Derann were offering features, I expect one lasting 90 mins would be in the region of £850. I'm sure they would produce 16mm prints of any of their releases, if the demand justified costs involved, but I don't think it will happen with any feature.
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Adrian Winchester
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Michael De Angelis
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1261
From: USA
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted December 11, 2005 04:17 PM
John's detail is a good one.
When I was in college, between 1975-79, we rented some films from Swank.
Other companies were Films Inc., United Artists / Warner Bros. Kit Parker etc.
All of the new release prints from these companies were gorgeous. Some of the classic L&H prints were excellent. However, when a print became 'library' condition, they would tell us that it was not available any longer.
Scope features were the most difficult to focus. The focus would pop from scene to scene. Shampoo, was a notorious Swank release that drove us crazy.
Films Inc's Scope releases were a slightly improved over Swanks, but still difficult to focus. Papillion was excruciating to watch and focus.
The Disney features were only available for a limited time, and then they were pulled from the catalog.
At the time, the rental fees were based on a flat rate versus if any fee was charged at the gate.
If there was a separate admission, we were supposed to pay the percentage of the profit, if the profits exceeded a required amount of the flat rental fee.
One year, a husband & wife team were hired either by Swank or a Hollywood company for a surprise pop-in audit, for the amount at the gate.
Michael
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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God
Posts: 5468
From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted March 30, 2009 11:44 PM
I have sent an email to amalgamated in Australia regarding thier collection and it is CONFIRMEDD that they have new releases in their collection in 16mm that includes 3.10 to Yuma (2007). And this is our conversation (I didn't cover up her email, since the email is taken from open source, i.e their website. So you can in touch with her directly, if you are interested):
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Dear Winbert,
As the movie is listed on the catalogue as 16mm then it is available in this format.
Regards
Lorraine
Lorraine Paton
Amalgamated Movies Non-Theatrical Film Distributors
9 Paterson Avenue, Kingsgrove, 2208
Phone: (02) 9554-5990
Mobile : 0425293030
Email: lorrainepaton1@bigpond.com
Website: www.amalgamatedmovies.com
quote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Winbert Hutahaean " <winbert@xxx>
To: "LorrainePaton " <lorrainepaton1@bigpond.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:19 PM
Subject: RE: [Amalgamated Website Query] 16mm films
>>>>We do have 16mm prints in our library.
Dear Lorraine,
Thanks for your reply. Yes, I knew you have 16mm prints in our library.I just want to get your confirmation that your library include those new releases like 3.10 Yuma (2007). Is that right? Or is that film only available on DVD?.
thanks,
Winbert
-----Original Message-----
From: LorrainePaton <lorrainepaton1@bigpond.com>
Sent: 3/30/2009 11:28:42 AM
To: Winbert Hutahaean <winbert@xxxx>
Subject: Re: [Amalgamated Website Query] 16mm films
Dear Winbert,
We do have 16mm prints in our library.
Regards
Lorraine
Lorraine Paton
Amalgamated Movies Non-Theatrical Film Distributors
9 Paterson Avenue, Kingsgrove, 2208
Phone: (02) 9554-5990
Mobile : 0425293030
Email: lorrainepaton1@bigpond.com
Website: www.amalgamatedmovies.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Winbert Hutahaean
To: nsw@amalgamatedmovies.com
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 1:44 AM
Subject: [Amalgamated Website Query] 16mm films
Dear Sir/Mam,
I am doing search on your 16mm catalog and find there are a lot new movies in that format, that includes "3.10 to Yuma" which was released in 2007.
If I may ask, is your catalog corret to list those 2005-2007 releases in 16mm format? as far as I knew this format has died in 2004.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
regards,
Winbert Hutahaean
Cheers, and hope that will pump your hunting spirit up. Because it means that the chance is always there my friend ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
regards,
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Winbert
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