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Topic: Who sells as thefilmprojectionist on ebay
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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted May 16, 2009 03:20 PM
The guy is definitely doing an improper thing. To use the excuse of "honoring ebay rules" would only apply if the projector was on ebay all during the time that you were in negotiations with him for the projector.
He would not have offered it for sale to you, unless he had taken it off ebay already, (at least, an honest person would do that). For him to relist it, and then beg the argument that ebay proprieties have to be honored is doing you a wrong.
If this ebayer is a member of the 8mm Forum, then shame on you, as you not only have dis-honored a decent buyer who will no doubt not buy from you again, but now, because of your actions, all 8mm Forum members know your ebay identity and will no doubt tend to steer away from your auctions OR write you off completely.
Unless you can come on this forum and answer for yourself.
If anyone knows who this person is in fact, if you would not wish to say on the Forum, please e-mail Dino and myself so we'll know.
Thank you for bringing this ebay seller to our attention Dino, you have done us a good service. Fortunately, no money had passed from your hands to this person, and you can still invest that money with a honest person, (as we don't know as to whether it is a man or woman).
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Osi Osgood
Film God
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
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posted May 20, 2009 04:00 PM
I just got back from vacation and had the fun of re-reading this series of posts. You were the lucky one, Dino. I lost a big load of bucks on the guy which I'd really rather not go into as I'm still stinging from that.
Look, just like anybody else out there, if I can make a fair profit selling or re-selling something, I'll do so, but its a completely different thing when you say you'll sell something to a someone and then up it like one Lee did.
One of the reasons why I just love this Forum, is that, (as a general rule), you will get a good deal on something that is offered ...
Why?
Because there is the potential that if the sale went bad or the item was not as described, the word will get back to the other forum members, and that would jeopardize they're good standing with fellow members and with only so many Super 8 lovers out there these days, we can use each and every legitimate buyer or seller.
It's like having good laws. The laws are there to protect the honorable. This forum stands as a "law" of sorts for the honorable collector. It keeps a potential "iffy" super 8 seller in check. It also protects those buyers or sellers from ebay or otherwise sellers like Lee who will make questionable deals.
Do to this series of posts, many a collector will be wisely steered away from Lee. Don't get me wrong, Lee, in and of himself, may be an alright guy, except when it comes to making the odd pound.
But then, perhaps, Lee may realize that he grossly overstepped things here and may choose to do the right thing by our own Dino.
Perhaps Lee will realize just how many people he may be turning off from his auctions in the future.
Also, lastly, if Mr. Lee has a 100 percent rating, he's probably only saying the half of it. He may have a 100 percent, (as of right now) on his new ebay account, but his earlier ebay account was shot to heck by bad business decisions. Besides, I have no reason to believe that our own "Mr.EUMIG" would just state an complete lie about something.
Hey!! I should be Mr. EUMIG!!
Sometimes those bad ratings can be from irate people, (as the two in a row lady ebayers did to me, as was related in a much earlier series of ebay posts.)
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Osi Osgood
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Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
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posted May 20, 2009 07:02 PM
It could be a "sticky situation", Kevin ... ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
I personally believe, by all that has been written on this forum in total, that our bunch here are a great, honorable bunch of buyers or sellers.
The only problem I can see with it, would be, if a person just doesn't like the fact that they just made a purchase, and the seller isn't willing to to take back the print or return the money, may cause a person to potentially lie a lot about a decent seller, (as I was bitten by on ebay about a year ago, and my ebay account never quite healed from the lies, but fortunately, it didn't involve anybody on the forum, to my best knowledge), and potentially do harm.
What I would suggest is something that has actually been posed by another member. A section where both sides can present thier case and then all forum members can either add they're positive or negatives to the posts so all can have an informed decision concerning the transaction is question.
This would make sure that, lets say a person who have been one hundred percent reliable; if that person is improperly mailgned by another member, then all those who know for a fact that the maligned member is good and trustworthy, can arise and come to that persons aid.
You could call it a form of arbitration.
Anyway, I think that could be good, as it would allow for proper checks and balances.
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