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Jon Addams
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 638
From: New York, NY, USA
Registered: Apr 2007


 - posted July 14, 2009 11:06 PM      Profile for Jon Addams     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi,

Do you like DUAL 8 sound projectors? How do you think about them? What to you like or dislike?

I really never care much for them. There are some very knowledgeable individuals here whose opinion I respect. I’d like to know more about these projectors.

Thank you

Jon

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Mikael Barnard
Film Handler

Posts: 85
From: Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire, UK
Registered: Jun 2009


 - posted July 14, 2009 11:23 PM      Profile for Mikael Barnard   Email Mikael Barnard   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Speaking as someone who is in the market for one (or at least will be when he can get more than about 7p saved to afford one) I can say that the simple reason I want one is to be able to do standard 8 sound and I think you'll find that this is the reason now that most people go for them. Certainly the advice seems to be get one, set it up for standard 8 sound and use a separate super8 projector. And good advice it is too!

Mikael.

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Gary Crawford
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 979
From: Manassas, VA. USA
Registered: Jun 2003


 - posted July 15, 2009 08:00 AM      Profile for Gary Crawford     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I've had very very good luck with Eumig 810D's. Usually do leave them Standard mode, but have tried super 8 with them...no problem.

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Douglas Meltzer
Moderator

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From: New York, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003


 - posted July 15, 2009 08:55 AM      Profile for Douglas Meltzer   Email Douglas Meltzer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I agree with Mikael. My Eumig Mark S 802 is used strictly in the Standard 8mm mode.

Doug

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Joe Caruso
Film God

Posts: 4105
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003


 - posted July 15, 2009 04:28 PM      Profile for Joe Caruso     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
EUMIG 807D - marvelous workhorse

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David Pannell
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1072
From: Horsham, West Sussex, UK
Registered: Nov 2004


 - posted July 16, 2009 08:19 AM      Profile for David Pannell   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Whilst on the subject of Eumigs, can anyone comment on the Eumig 824 please?

Thanks.

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Dave.

Valves and celluloid - a great combination!
Early technology rules OK!

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Martin Jones
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1269
From: Thetford , Norfolk,England
Registered: May 2008


 - posted July 16, 2009 10:40 AM      Profile for Martin Jones     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Eumig 824..... Good solid machine,David, with excellent illumination, and very good sound frequency response considering its year. Twin track with clever superimposing and sound recording manipulation using an electromechanical control system. Main hate is thhe speed change (moving roller on disc system) which cannot be easily moved during play. Clever Reg 8/Super 8 threading system to allow for sound advance difference.
Mine is modified with the Craven Syncrodek system; I used it to control speed manually during video transfers.
Have never used it on Reg 8 sound; trying to find time to run a Walton copy of "The Glass Mountain" I acquired a while ago.
Martin

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Retired TV Service Engineer
Ongoing interest in Telecine....

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Michael De Angelis
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1261
From: USA
Registered: Jul 2003


 - posted July 16, 2009 01:13 PM      Profile for Michael De Angelis   Email Michael De Angelis   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I believe that the 824 is the only
Eumig machine that has a switch to
turn off the lamp?

However the others are just as fine.
I found the 810D to be solid.
I also have the 822D. Very good,
but the construction does not seem
to appear as beefy with the internal
aperture plates. This in does not anyway
diminish its usefulness and.
function.

Is it only me, but my only wish is that the treble control would
not blow out - leaving mostly bass.

These machines produce
the familiar "Humig humm."

Not bad, but there are
ways to get around that issue.

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Isn't it great that we can all communicate about this great
hobby that we love!

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David Pannell
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1072
From: Horsham, West Sussex, UK
Registered: Nov 2004


 - posted July 17, 2009 02:06 AM      Profile for David Pannell   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Martin and Michael. I'm just wondering if there's a better Eumig machine out there than my Mark S for running Standard 8 sound films.

As an earlier thread of mine has shown, I have modified the Mark S to take 800ft reels, which works brilliantly (although I say it myself). My main reason for choosing the Mark S, was that it's a dedicated Standard 8 sound machine, and I have always been, rightly or wrongly, a bit skeptical of dual gauge projectors. I did have an 810D HQS which I sold, and am now wondering if I did the right thing. My main concern was that although you can change the sprockets and the gate for the different formats, you can't change the claw, and I can't help wondering if this could have any detrimental effects on the film perforations.

The rubber drive disc on the Mark S is now beginning to show signs of wear and I can forsee problems in the not-too-distant future. Do all Eumigs have this disc drive arrangement?

So, this is really a call for all Eumig enthusiasts to offer the benefit of their experience. My affair with Eumig is extremely limited.

With grateful thanks,

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Dave.

Valves and celluloid - a great combination!
Early technology rules OK!

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Alejandro Lopez
Junior
Posts: 14
From: Santiago de Compostela- Spain
Registered: Nov 2004


 - posted July 19, 2009 03:17 PM      Profile for Alejandro Lopez   Email Alejandro Lopez   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi: I´ve only seen this projector on pics but I don´t dislike it.
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=220452072685

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