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Topic: Moller - Anamorphot 32/2X lense

Osi Osgood
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posted May 01, 2008 06:15 PM

All this talk about scope lenses, made me curious about my own scope lense.

I have a Moller- Anamorphot 32/2X cinemascope lense. Curiously, it says "for projection only", yet, I have used it quite sucessfully, to shoot anamorphic digital video, (magnificent image!)

What I do for my own super 8 scope projections, is that I simply take an old fashioned bunsen burner/test tube holder, and this holds the lense in front of my Eumig 926, and it works amazingly well.

Though, sometimes I wonder if I'm seeing my scope films at thier absolute best. When I can afford one, I would love to get a proper Kowa super 8 scope lense and set up.

Does anybody have any info on this particular scope lense. By it's size, I'm assuming it was used for 35MM, but perhaps 16MM?

Info, por favor ...

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John Whittle
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posted May 01, 2008 08:42 PM

It's a 16mm lens. A 35mm lens generally won't focus below 30-40 feet since they're designed for theatres. Bolex used the 1.5x version of this lens for their anamorphic adapters. Back in the 50's it was felt that a 1.5 scope lens that gave a 2:1 picture was better for home use than 2.66.

Bolex had both an 8mm an 16mm version with the 8mm version being much smaller and lighter. The Moller is an excellent design and I doubt you'd see any improvement with the Kowa 8Z/16H lens.

John

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Osi Osgood
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posted May 01, 2008 08:55 PM

I'm not necessarily looking for better image, just merely the proper lense, as I've heard that these lenses can actually fit right onto your projector, (there am I, sounding like a novice).

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Simon McConway
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posted May 02, 2008 03:58 AM

It has to be a Kowa...my tests reveal Kowa equates to an outstanding performance!

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Roy Neil
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posted May 02, 2008 04:05 AM

If you measure the outer diameter of your lens it should be easy to determine its intended use.

I have a B&L 35mm lens which will focus down to 15 feet, although normally my screen is 32 feet from my projector.

For short throws as little as 5 feet I use a Sankor 16F with excellent results - however - there are no doubt better lenses available. This lens is the same diameter as a standard Elmo lens and works with a scope bracket.

For long throw I use a 35mm scope lens. To support the lens I place (2) sandbags in front of the projector. The lens is very stable with no jitter.

My friend owns one of the anamorphic lenses Steve Osborne sells. Reportedly the image quality is exceptional, although the cost is around $400 if I recall correctly.

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Gary Crawford
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posted May 02, 2008 07:20 AM

I can second the notion about the lens Steve O. sells.. I think it's called the Rectimascope ....I call it the Brontoscope..or the Raptor...it's so big and very very heavy...has a wide rear element , making it better for Super 8 in homes and small theaters when the picture has to be zoomed out a bit. Absolutely sharp edge to edge ...just a fine hunk of glass. He sells with a bracket that screws right onto an Elmo...and makes the lens very convenient to use.

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Osi Osgood
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posted May 02, 2008 08:59 AM

Guys, I'm sorry, but I don't ANY kind of lense up my rectima ...

Okay, that was REALLY bad ... I know.

slap on Osi's hand!

Egad, 400.00 dollars? Small potato's OSI will have to wait awhile!

My lense does focus very nicely at only 16 feet. Looking at the numbers on the side, this Moller goes down to five feet and up to 50 feet, I think.

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Xavian-Anderson Macpherson
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From: Salem, Oregon, US
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posted September 25, 2009 06:09 AM

I came here looking for information on the Moeller Anamorphot 16/32/1.5x. I intend to use it in conjunction with a Samsung SCC-131A digital cctv camera for which I've been buying a number of accessories to fit the C-mount. It'll be interesting to see what kind of results I get from the Moeller. I know that it's mostly determined by the lens behind it. But I will soon have an assortment of lenses to chose from to get the results I'm looking for.

Xavian-Anderson Macpherson
ShingoshiDao

EDIT: I wound up not getting the anamorphic. But on further investigation I found that the Bolex Moller Anamorphot 16/32/1.5 which I thought of getting, had a 48mm rear thread. At least that's based on what I read from someone who owned one.

[ October 09, 2009, 08:20 PM: Message edited by: Xavian-Anderson Macpherson ]

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