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Claus Harding
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 - posted December 16, 2009 11:12 PM      Profile for Claus Harding   Email Claus Harding   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi All,

I was awaiting the arrival of an Isco Ultra 'Scope cinema lens and my thoughts for days had been on how to mount the beast, since it wouldn't fit standard holders in 8 or 16mm.

Chip Gelmini's wooden cradle was what seemed the most useful for the least money, but since I wanted to keep using my regular (smaller) folding table for the machines, I kept coming back to the idea of some sort of standing ring mount.

Having found nothing on-line (and god knows I looked at every kind of ring/washer/holder...) when the lens arrived, I suddenly realized that one of my microphone mounts had the right circular diameter to slip onto the middle of the barrel of the lens (about 3-1/4-inch diameter.)

This is the item, it's called a spider mount:

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The company is Marshall; they sell cheap Chinese-made microphones and, conversely, the spider mounts are quite reasonable too.

Take the rubber bands off, and the center mount comes out.
The lockable ring tilts, and the base screws onto any mic stand of your choice (Atlas with cast-iron base here):

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Since this is very much the "raw prototype" [Smile] I put some Velcro around the lens to help firm it against the ring and to avoid scratching the heck out of the barrel.
The most amazing thing is that the little swivel lock holds the big lens just fine. Just make sure you place the ring towards the middle of the lens to minimize front heaviness.

The little hooks that hold the rubber bands on the ring can be gently bent out with a pair of pliers to act as little 'fingers' holding the lens in both directions.

Just for a rough idea, nothing really 'set', here it is in front of the 1200, and with another plank or so, the machine will be pretty well aligned:

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With my Eiki, in terms of height, it's very close by itself:

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If you are planning to go the Isco commercial 'Scope lens route,
the Marshall mount for the V57 or V67 mic is the one I used, and they are available at many music stores. Other budget brands abound too these days.
For other lenses, consider this an idea. You may be able to find a mount that will work for your lens too, as the 'spiders' come in different sizes.

I was very pleased with how snugly these items fit together, even before making any serious decisions about padding the barrel and such.
The ring and the little lock may look scary with so much glass riding on it, but mine felt comfortable from when I put the lens on, and I am not a risk-taker with such things. At most, the washer in the ring lock may need to be changed a bit more often. Equilibrium helps in the mounting.

Now I really need to buy a Super-8 'scope feature... [Roll Eyes]

Claus.

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Dino Everette
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 - posted December 17, 2009 12:48 AM      Profile for Dino Everette     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Claus
wow thanks for this, being a musician as well, this will be an easy solution.....Hmmmm now I'll have to get a scope Super 8 film as well

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Claus Harding
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 - posted December 17, 2009 09:23 AM      Profile for Claus Harding   Email Claus Harding   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Dino,
I was thinking of you when I wrote this as I recall you saying you play.

One thing I would add: for safety, when you put up the mount, orient it so that, should there be any notion of it 'sagging' forward, it would be 'locking' itself if going in that direction. Awkward wording, but I think you know what I mean.

Claus.

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Gary Crawford
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 - posted December 18, 2009 11:14 AM      Profile for Gary Crawford     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Stellar idea.....and some desk mike stands even have adjustable heights to some extent....I have to do that so I can mount that monster Rectimascope lens in front of my 16mm pageants. thanks for the suggestion!!

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Graham Ritchie
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 - posted December 18, 2009 05:16 PM      Profile for Graham Ritchie   Email Graham Ritchie   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Claus
Thats a brilliant idea, its a lot better than what I use for mounting the Scope lens at the moment will try to get one after Christmas.

Graham.

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