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Bradford A Moore
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 - posted June 13, 2011 10:40 AM      Profile for Bradford A Moore     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hey All,

I just found out through John's Facebook page today, that he passed away this morning. He has been in the hospital for about a month or so. I sadly never met him in person, but we had many great conversations on the phone. He will be very sadly missed as friend, and to the film world [Frown]

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Christian Bjorgen
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 - posted June 13, 2011 10:45 AM      Profile for Christian Bjorgen   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Very sad news indeed, I too heard of it on his Facebook-page some minutes ago. Sad to think that it isn't all that long since I spoke with him online as we were cooperating as leaders of the Super 8 Facebook society, and we discussed the possibility of a intercontinental event.

You will be missed, John. RIP.

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Dino Everette
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 - posted June 13, 2011 11:07 AM      Profile for Dino Everette     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Wow, that is horrible news, as John was a true believer in 8mm, and one of the few folks to put his money where his mouth was in terms of supporting the hobby, through writing and promoting... I will unfortunately add his memory to the growing list of other fallen stars...

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Joe Caruso
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 - posted June 13, 2011 12:01 PM      Profile for Joe Caruso     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm simply numbed by this, one of my best friends, I just heard from Lou FRanchetti he was in hospital, but what happenend? We met in 1985 via phone, due to an ad I placed in Steve's REEL-IMAGE, caught up in Cherry Hill at the old Barlow shows, later Jay Dubin - I broke bread at his home, we shared films and laughed so much. I'm really having a hard time to place into words what a dear person he was - He began the CINSEA shows, we talked about that for a long time before, we were speaking of expansion and all. He was writing a book on Blackhawk Films...wow this has really thrown me for a loop - Miss him so much already, folks give me time to colelct thoughts on Johnny Black, this is very hard right now for me - Shorty

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Jean-Christophe Deblock
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 - posted June 13, 2011 12:17 PM      Profile for Jean-Christophe Deblock     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Indeed, a very bad news.

I've bought a lot of interresting silent films from him.

He was a great collector and a very sympathic men.

But now, he's with some of the greatest guys of the cinema: Clark Gable, Jimmi Steward, and a lot of other.

RIP, John.

JC.

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Michael O'Regan
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 - posted June 13, 2011 12:57 PM      Profile for Michael O'Regan   Email Michael O'Regan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm sorry to hear it, though I never met the man.

RIP

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Steve Klare
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 - posted June 13, 2011 01:56 PM      Profile for Steve Klare   Email Steve Klare   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Years ago we had a friendly debate on this forum about what it would take to get a real film convention going on this side of the Pond. I said at the time that without some organization to advocate for it, it was never going to happen.

That organization turned out to be John Black all on his own, and because of his efforts it did happen.

I really hope that in the last two years of his life he got a genuine sense of satisfaction in making something good happen, and enjoyed the conventions as much as the rest of us who attended.

Thanks, John

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Joe Taffis
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 - posted June 13, 2011 02:05 PM      Profile for Joe Taffis   Email Joe Taffis   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Very sad news [Frown]

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Pasquale DAlessio
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 - posted June 13, 2011 02:59 PM      Profile for Pasquale DAlessio     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
My sincerest and heartfelt condolences to his family.

Pat DAlessio

[ June 14, 2011, 09:08 PM: Message edited by: Pasquale DAlessio ]

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Brian Hendel
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 - posted June 13, 2011 04:39 PM      Profile for Brian Hendel     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That is such terrible news. He was doing so much to keep our hobby going strong. In my limited exchanges with John he was always great to deal with ... he will be missed.

[ June 13, 2011, 09:35 PM: Message edited by: Brian Hendel ]

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Bill Phelps
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 - posted June 13, 2011 04:55 PM      Profile for Bill Phelps     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm shocked to hear this news. My thoughts and prayers are with his family at this time. I regret not making it to the Wildwood shows to meet Mr. Black. I was going to try to make the most recent one but it was cancelled...obviously because he was ill.

Bill [Frown]

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Joe Caruso
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His heart wasn't up to par, I'm sure. Years back, during one of many lengthy phone-calls, I mentioned the idea of starting a film show where films began in this county, New Jersey. His thinking was akin to mine and we talked endlessly until he realized the first CINSEA - Maybe we can continue to hold court there, in celebration of his memory and our love for film - Helluva guy - Shorty

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Joseph Morrison
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 - posted June 13, 2011 08:07 PM      Profile for Joseph Morrison   Email Joseph Morrison   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Wow, I might even be a bit more stunned than anyone else on this board. John and I had been on the phone a couple of times lately, a little more than a month ago, because he was getting ready to move to and settle down in New Kensington, PA where I have recently purchased a building. We never met in person, but I was thrilled to have a film friend in New Ken. We had plans to revive a theater, put on shows, etc. So I am very saddened by the news. What a bummer.

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Brad Kimball
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God Bless Him and Keep Him Always

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John Clancy
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 - posted June 14, 2011 03:40 AM      Profile for John Clancy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I can't believe what I'm reading here. Can't think of anything to say.

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Brad Kimball
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May I ask if anyone knows what he actually succumbed to and how old he was? Just curious. When I met him at CineSea he seemed relatively young.

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Douglas Meltzer
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 - posted June 14, 2011 11:43 AM      Profile for Douglas Meltzer   Email Douglas Meltzer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I first met John Black at the Richard Stockton Rest Area, between exits 7 and 7A of the New Jersey Turnpike. This was the agreed upon halfway point between Manhattan and John’s Clementon, New Jersey home. It was October 2008, and we were trading features for projectors. I brought 9 titles (mostly horror since John loved horror flicks, the cheesier the better) and John brought four projectors. He was incredibly personable and had an absolutely stunning encyclopedic knowledge of all things related to film collecting. We talked for hours in the parking lot, where he mentioned he was working on a book about Blackhawk Films.

On the Forum, Shorty Caruso had long been asking why we couldn’t have a film collectors convention here in the US, similar to the BFCC and Blackpool gatherings in the UK. In September of 2009, John, who had organized collectors shows in the 90s, started working with Shorty to make this happen. As a musician (John was a terrific guitarist/vocalist) he often performed in Wildwood, New Jersey. He used those connections to secure hotel and convention space and announced the first “Film Collector's Club International” show would take place on December 5th and 6th at the Bolero Resort.

While the show didn’t break any attendance records, the gathering of 8mm and 16mm dealers and collectors had such a warm, cordial atmosphere that John organized two more, changing the name (now CineSea) and the location (Ocean Holiday Resort, Wildwood Crest). The turnout increased with each show, with 8mm fans travelling from as far away as California to join in on the fun. One of my fondest memories is the night before the second CineSea when John entertained a group of us by performing 1960’s and 70’s songs near the hotel pool.

The fourth show was scheduled to take place on May 7th & 8th 2011, however John had to cancel for numerous reasons. He was selling his NJ house and moving to Virginia until he bought a place in Pennsylvania. He also had an extended hospital stay at this time. In his last email to me he wrote how much he was looking forward to the fall CineSea show.

John was only 54 when he passed away. He could go on forever about Blackhawk Films, but had a soft spot for the company that was their polar opposite, Atlas. John’s first ever film purchase was an Atlas Chaplin release.
He thought Elmo projectors were overrated and always raved about the Keystone K109, saying it was the finest regular 8mm projector ever built.
He told wonderful stories, many about his adventures from organizing those 90’s shows and dealing with the celebrities whom he had booked.
He lit up when discussing bad films. John was so happy when he found a DVD of the 1964 cult film “Spider Baby”.

I hope his Blackhawk Films book will be published. He had done so many interviews, including one with Martin Phelan, Blackhawk’s founder with Kent Eastin. What a shame if all that research ended here.

I hope we can have at least one more CineSea. We owe it to John.

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CineSea 3: Gary Crawford, Shorty Caruso, Harold Doebel, Lou Franchetti, Gary Sloan (hiding), John, John Capazzo, Tom Stathes, Brad Kimball and daughter Gillian.

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Joe Caruso
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Doug, perfect tribute. He would have liked that. He wouldn't want us to grieve over him, but hey, he'd say, get together, thread the projectors, dim the lights and dream. We can celebrate both the film and the man. Back in the 80's i always mentioned a book should be writen on Blackhawk, well, I'm full of talk, John had the vision/decision to do it - I also hope we can get his book published, and at lweast we can meet in Wildwood, then who knows, we might continue the tradition he started - Helluva guy, my phone is awfully quiet now...Shorty

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Pasquale DAlessio
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Doug

That was such a great tribute you wrote to John Black. Although I never had the privelage to meet him, I did deal with him and he was such a gentleman.

Shorty
I am so sorry for the loss of your best fried. I lost my best friend 2 years ago and it really hurts. It's like a part of your world is missing. I wish you the best in your bereverance.

Pat DAlessio

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Joe Caruso
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In film, he was my best pal, though being far apart living in different parts of Jersey, we didn't socialize much, him on the road with music and me in the city (theatre)- Our time was phone, mail and shows, and for near 26 years, oh what a pleasure to be in his company. I've come to love and respect all of you fine people, Blackie though will always harbor a great spot in my mind and heart - I say we toast his good name with one more Wildwood gathering and whatever the path may lead - Shorty

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Larry Arpin
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Doug-That was a very nice tribute. Sounds like he was a great, fun guy. Very sad.

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Osi Osgood
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Doug ...

Magnificent "testimony" (testify testify!) to John!

and Shorty, what an excellent idea about at least one last get together. Where exactly is this "Wildwood" of which you mention (as I swear that I don't think I have been there!), as I'd love to attend, (though it sounds like a hell of a ride in that weather beaten van of ours!)

and while there, have a "round table" discussion time to tell stories about the late great John Black!

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Jean-Marc Toussaint
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Nice tribute Doug.

RIP, John, I'll raise a glass to your memory at the 2011 edition of the Cine Nuts convention in France.

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Joe Caruso
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I thought You (Osi) were there at the first one, recall a tall fellow with glasses - Anyway, Google Wildwood NJ - It's almost at the southern tip of the Garden State, lovely beachfront area - Of course, meeting once more is speculation contingent on time, logistics, etc - Back of my mind says continue the shows, then I feel one more gathering to remember what Blackie always said, thread the projector, dim the lights, and dream...that might be it, cameras ready and friends around - Shorty

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Lee Mannering
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A lovely tribute Brad.

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