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Winbert Hutahaean
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 - posted October 09, 2012 05:11 PM      Profile for Winbert Hutahaean     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
OK..this is not 8mm but View master is actually using the same celluloid stock. Perhaps not rightly 8mm, but it is not also 16mm.

But I just broke one reel and found they have perforation and they use film stock.

Some reels are just faded like Eastman.

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But some reels have good color:

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There are even more colorfull reels from the above shot.

All reels are dated 1967. They are not recent reels.

Because they used film stock, what type of stock were used and how the lab process different so these view masters still have good color?

I only knew LPP was introduced in 1980.

Opinion please.

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Bill Phelps
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 - posted October 09, 2012 06:09 PM      Profile for Bill Phelps     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, I can't give you any info but you reminded me or something...

I collect View Masters and I have the set FRANKENSTEIN. It is not from the movie but claymation. It is a really cool set. I have had it since I was a young kid.

Now not to long ago I was looking thru some of my old sets and I pulled out FRANKENSTEIN and reel 1 and 3 are perfect color and reel 2 is solid pink! All of them looked great a few years ago and they are stored together. I can't figure out what happened and it kinda ticks me off [Mad]

I'm waiting for opinions too!

Bill

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Bryan Chernick
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 - posted October 09, 2012 06:28 PM      Profile for Bryan Chernick   Email Bryan Chernick   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have a View-master camera that I still use to make personal reels. It uses standard 35mm slide film and you use a special cutter to cut the pictures to fit the reels. You can get over 70 stereo pairs on a roll of 24 exposure film. My wife's grandfather was taking personal View-master pictures since the early 1950's through to the mid 1980's. Most of them appear to be Kodachrome but there is no way of telling since they were cut from the original film. I have hundreds of these reels and they have held their color quite well.

Sawyers used Kodachrome to make the reels but when View-Master was purchased by GAF in 1966 they switched to an E-6 film. Below is a link to a history of View-Master.

View-Master History

Another great View-Master site:

View-Master Resource

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James N. Savage 3
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 - posted October 10, 2012 06:02 AM      Profile for James N. Savage 3     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thats so interesting. I was a big ViewMaster collector in the 70's. I think I still have some in storage, so I'll have to check the colors.

I few years ago, I saw some sound ViewMaster reels at a thrift store. They were in their original boxes (similar to a super-8 400 foot cardboard digest box). I started to buy them, but I've never had a sound ViewMaster unit, so I resisted.

James.

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Jean-Marc Toussaint
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 - posted October 10, 2012 06:59 AM      Profile for Jean-Marc Toussaint   Author's Homepage   Email Jean-Marc Toussaint   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If anyone is interested, I have a few VM titles and equipments for sale. Send me a message jmtoussaint (at) claranet (dot) fr for a list.

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Luis Caramelo
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 - posted October 10, 2012 09:22 AM      Profile for Luis Caramelo     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
hi!fellas i do my self got my viewmaster stuff,thanks to this i got the spell for the cinema ,i sill got some films (discs)
i got also the projector wicht dosen,t project in 3D,only in the viewmaster we can see 3D,i had some film broken and saw the frames semes to be 16mm,well after all these years the colors are still amaizing,here,s some titles i still goT;

-BONANZA
-ZORRO
-GUNSMOKE
-WILD LIFE
-SEA WOLRD
-TREASURE ISLAND
-JUGLE BOOK
-CINDERELA
-DONALD AND FRIENDS
-DONALD DUCK

REGRADS:
LUIS CARAMELO

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James N. Savage 3
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 - posted October 10, 2012 10:06 AM      Profile for James N. Savage 3     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I had some great ones too-

Lost in Space, City Beneath the Sea, Posiedon Adventure, Mission Impossible, etc.

They were fun to collect, but the packaging was so cheap, it was almost impossible to keep (for a kid anyways).

James.

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Brad Kimball
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 - posted October 11, 2012 09:01 AM      Profile for Brad Kimball   Email Brad Kimball   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I still collect the old SHOW 'N TELL filmstrip/record sets. They definitely used an 8mm piece of film and just about all of them now are red. It's a shame because I remember the "Hansel and Gretel" title being rich with blues and greens when I was much younger.

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James N. Savage 3
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 - posted October 12, 2012 10:28 AM      Profile for James N. Savage 3     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hey Brad-

I'm also a fan of the "Show N Tell". I went through two of them when I was a kid (they were cheaply made). When I became a father in the early 90's, my son turned 4 I decided it would be a perfect toy for him and I went to my local Toys R Us store and naevly started looking for one. When I couldn't find any, I asked the store manager where the Show N Tell players were, and she looked at me like I was from MARS! [Confused]

Anyway, reality set in and I began my search for one over the next few years. With no luck, by the time my son turned 9 I just gave up.

Well, a few years ago, I decided to look again (for me this time). What I discovered was this- with Ebay and other internet services, they CAN be found. But....to find a good working one is VERY difficult. And when you do find one, the bidding usually goes high. I think the biggest problem is that they were made so cheaply, and made for kids, most did not last more than a year or so (No, there were no "GS" or "ST"-"Show N Tells"!)

Anyway, I finally got one in good working order about a year ago, and I love it. If only they still made stuff like this for kids today. Not enough to "jade" them, but enough to keep them interested.

James.

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Bill Brandenstein
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 - posted October 17, 2012 12:45 PM      Profile for Bill Brandenstein   Email Bill Brandenstein   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have some 40-50-year-old Viewmaster reels also, and they appear to be Kodachrome as well - great color, high contrast, very dark blacks.

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