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Topic: Best super 8 sound projector to buy
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Paul Adsett
Film God
Posts: 5003
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted November 06, 2012 05:09 PM
Jake, I can only relate my personal experience, others I am sure will offer other opinions.
I have used Eumig's for 40 years and can honestly say that I have never scratched a single frame of film with a Eumig projector. The Eumig 800 series are built like little tanks, and are very gentle on film. If you get one in top condition it will serve you extremely well for many, many years. I still have a 22 year old Eumig 820 which runs and sounds like new. But bear in mind that the Eumig 800's can suffer from worn motor drive discs ( which results in slow or no running), broken claw pins, and worn sound heads ( which can result in low or no sound). So if you come across one, test it thoroghly before buying.
The Eumig 900 series are even better than the 800's, although constuction is a little less solid. The 900 thru 929 series are 600ft capacity with 100 watt lighting, and have coaxial reels which people either love or hate. The 930 thru 937 series have 800 ft reel capacity, 150 watt lighting, and conventional 2-sprocket in-line film path. The top of the line 938 and 940 have all this plus stereo recording and playback. All the 900 series have superb sound quality (better IMO than the mighty Elmo GS1200), and an awesome outboard sound mixing console. The 930 and up are very, very kind to film. Get the 930 and up if you can.
Sankyo's are reportedly excellent projectors and highly regarded, and also very kind to film, although I have zero experience of them.
Elmo projectors are generally of excellent design and superb performance, but all of then can scratch film if not very carefully cleaned and maintained, due to inherent areas of scratch inducement in the design of the plastic film guides.
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Jake Mayes
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 119
From: Bath, UK
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted November 07, 2012 06:19 AM
Thanks for the suggestions guys ![[Smile]](smile.gif) My grandads projector was an eumig, and it was/is a great machine! A friend of mine has a sankyo 702 and there was an identical one on ebay, that one is perfect for my needs and does not break the bank, quiet running, and isn't stereo but can switch between tracks 1, 2 and 1+2, handy as my grandad added backing music to some of the old family music, wiping the audio track, he managed to do it on one channel but not the other, great at the time but years later conversations were had that we are curious to hear, although we prefer it with the music!
I have the projector reserved for when I have moved and have the ability to pay, I also paid steven sigel a deposit on Aliens, as my ability to buy it vanished when I had to move, having already agreed a payment date and bought the thing! but I know once moved I would have the money once more, so i paid a deposit for him to hold it for me : - )
According to the seller of the 702 It is fully working in every way, and does no damage to the film, i made sure he has tested the thing thoroughly, and am looking forward to it
The filmosonic DCM i bought before needing to move, the seller made out in listing to be fully working, had photos of full spools on it the lot, then when it came to me stating the faults and test films he got 'suspicious' I was actually able to run such a test, stating that if i could run such a test why did i not ask him if it worked first, although the listing made out like it was a 'reliable projector', a good 'investment', the lot! The corrosion on the inside was unbelevable, around the gate, sprocket drive hub, shutter, and around the metal housing of the lamphouse cover. i suspect servere damp storage or water damage if i am honest. So i borrowed money to send the machine back for a full refund, he got it back (packing peanuts MISSING from the box, only pieces of polystyrene were left, with loads of added tape to the box) and according to him the control dial no longer works, so he refused to refund me a penny, he was funny about refunding me in the first place, agreed to do a full refund (with postage, which he refused) due to me opening a dispute, and now he has both the projector and the money and am waiting tomorrow to escalate the dispute. So i have been shafted there, I am sure he tried to be misleading with the listing making out it was a fully working machine, then shooting down my testing, which one would do if they have bought a projector before running anything important through it! As far as I am aware, they are a remake of the sankyos they have a very similar design and control knobs and identical lenses!
Am looking forward to receive the sankyo The elmos seem fancy, but the cost of the machines in the UK/shipping one from abroad goes beyond my budget at the moment! And from suggestions here the sankyos are nice machines, not as highly regarded as they should be.
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