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Brian Stearns
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From: Lexington
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 - posted August 20, 2013 05:51 AM      Profile for Brian Stearns         Edit/Delete Post 
I recently purchased a film that's up to the brim on 800 ft Elmo reel.because my projector only can take 600 ft reels. I need to break it down into say 3x400 ft reels. What tools do I need to accomplish the task?

any help would be great
thanks
Brian

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Dominique De Bast
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 - posted August 20, 2013 06:16 AM      Profile for Dominique De Bast   Email Dominique De Bast   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I suppose that the easier way would be to use rewind arms. You may also consider (but it not cheap) buying a long play unit if you have several features and do the opposite : putting them on large reels. Again, it is an investment but I think it always better to try to go from the smaller to the bigger when it's possible.

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David Ollerearnshaw
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From: Penistone Sheffield UK
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 - posted August 20, 2013 08:41 AM      Profile for David Ollerearnshaw   Author's Homepage   Email David Ollerearnshaw   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
An editor would be the best way to go if you have one. You may be better putting it on 600ft reels it could flow better with only one reel change.

When I bought "Goldfinger" I mounted it on 2 x 1200ft this film had a perfect reel change 'the fade out when Bond is drugged on the plane'. It was mid reel and meant cutting the film, but the intermission was perfect.

If you can watch the film on your projector put a 600ft take-up reel on and use a dowel to fit through the 800ft reel, hold this and watch the film when you get to a bit where you think it would be best to change to another reel cut the film.
It would also be good if you had some black leader to splice on front and back, and white for the beginning.

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Jim Schrader
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 - posted August 20, 2013 09:08 AM      Profile for Jim Schrader   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Brian if there is a way to run the film forward onto the biggest reels you have or several 400ft reels using your projector just don't thread it, then rewind it onto the reels you want to use from the end then you can cut the film as each reel is full. as far as holding the supply reel (800ft) use a marker or some other object that will spin freely on the 800ft reel. Good luck

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Hugh Thompson Scott
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From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
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 - posted August 20, 2013 10:19 AM      Profile for Hugh Thompson Scott   Email Hugh Thompson Scott       Edit/Delete Post 
A method I would use, is to check what the original spooling was,
as the breaks might come naturally if put back on it's original 400'
spools.

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Maurice Leakey
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 - posted August 20, 2013 10:58 AM      Profile for Maurice Leakey   Email Maurice Leakey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I agree with Hugh.
If the spool is held up to the light it should be obvious where the original joins are.
Or, run the film gently through your fingers, you will feel the joins.

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