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Topic: Cleaning Film?
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Mathew James
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 740
From: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Dec 2014
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posted November 23, 2016 07:14 AM
Hi All,
The other day I received my first copy of a derann print.
I had heard so much positives about derann prints that i thought i'd have a look at one...Unfortunately, this particular film was 'filthy'. I have never had one like this to be honest out of my whole collection. Almost like some sort of 'film'(pardon the pun) all over the film ![[Smile]](smile.gif) Almost looks like water stained lime depositing or something, i can't explain it.
Anyways, i figure there is no way this is going in any of my machines, so i may as well try some things...if i wreck the film, well, i felt it is already wrecked... I don't have any film cleaner of any kind at all right now...so I just thought to use isopropl alchohol.
Is this a big mistake? Has anyone used this solution before for cleaning film? I was reel careful. I used these make-up cleaning pads my wife had around as they were super soft, and put the isopropyl(95%) on the pads and my son held one reel with a pencil in the hub, while my wife was on the other reel...I was in the middle cleaning and it dried as fast as i cleaned so we were able to do the whole reel in about 10-15 minutes.
WOW, WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!!
I hope i didn't ruin anything, but at least i can see media again and it looks really clean. Ran the print and it was like new?
I just believe this would be a safe routine...
Is there a reason this worked for me, or did i just get lucky for this particular media?
PS: some of the residue left on the pads was almost RUST coloured???
[ November 23, 2016, 08:44 AM: Message edited by: Mathew James ]
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Mathew James
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 740
From: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Dec 2014
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posted November 23, 2016 08:19 AM
Thanx Andrew....
I figured as much, but felt i had nothing to lose on this one.
The rust colour must be the oxide you refer to.... I think the mag strip help up well, but i understand what you mean. Thankfully it sounds good and looks much better.
I think because i wiped so fast and didn't soak it, i may have survived this one...
I wonder if mineral oil could work as well? We have an other product here in Canada called 'Simple Green' which is supposed to clean many things without any hazardous ingredients, and you can put it on plants and not harm them, they say... it makes me curious...
Here are the approximate ingredients according to the safety data sheet:
Water 84.8% ,
Ethoxylated Alcohol 5% ,
Sodium Citrate 5%
Tetrasodium N,N-bis(carboxymethyl)-L-glutamate 1% ,
Sodium Carbonate 1% ,
Citric Acid 1% ,
Isothiazolinone mixture 0.2% ,
Fragrance Proprietary Mixture 1% ,
Colorant
I'm daring today i guess until i get film renew in house
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Matt 📽
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Paul Adsett
Film God
Posts: 5003
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted November 23, 2016 11:50 AM
Hi Mathew,
The problem with alcohol is that it will leave the film very dry, in an unlubricated condition. This may cause the film to chatter in some projectors.
I have found that ArmorAll Protectant Wipes do a very good job of cleaning and lubricating my films. I have had many films that simply would not run without severe chatter, will then run beautifully after a single rewind of the film though an Armorall wipe.
My theory is that these wipes, that have kept the vinyl dash of my wife's 1994 Honda Accord looking like new in blazing Florida sun, will similarly protect and keep film supple and flexible, and free from shrinkage.
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