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Elyas Tesfaye
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 520
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Registered: Nov 2012

posted May 23, 2013 08:58 AM

Hi all,
please pitch in your thoughts on this machine? Also, could you please tell me how it fares in regards to brightness (is it incandescent/ Halogen/ Xenon)? Thanks a ton [Big Grin]

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Best,
ET

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Jim Schrader
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1628
From: Savage, MN, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted May 24, 2013 12:01 PM

I have 2 of these 1 is an Eiki, and the other is the 3580 Bell & Howell both work very well they both have auto loop shut down if the loop is lost it shuts down to prevent film damage as far as the lamps go I have a ample supply of EJL'S ELC'S as long as they are 200-250W-24V they should work the unit has a switch that allows you to turn up the watts.

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Lee Mannering
Film God

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From: The Projection Box
Registered: Nov 2006

posted May 24, 2013 12:29 PM

Amongst the best Eiki machines but I would choose a Bell & Howell over it every time. Much kinder to vintage films and without shredding them

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Adrian Winchester
Film God

Posts: 2941
From: Croydon, London, UK
Registered: Aug 2004

posted May 24, 2013 06:28 PM

I'd say there's an element of luck. You might get one that's excellent and reliable, or if you're unlucky you might get one like mine! Despite it being like new old stock, the top loop restorer mechanism has gone wrong, the main control switch isn't quite right and about one time in every eight, the film gets somehow 'clamped' in the gate and damaged when the projector starts, however careful I am with the threading. You need an expert to fix such problems!

I have the autothread equivalent of the SSL (the ENT with the touch switches) and mine is great - by far the best projector I've owned.

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Adrian Winchester

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Bill Phelps
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1482
From: USA
Registered: Jan 2009

posted May 24, 2013 07:56 PM

I have a Bell & Howell 3580 slot load. It has been good to me so far. Easy to load and unload. I had to fix the focus knob when I first got it but other than that it runs like a top.

Bill [Smile]

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Maurice Leakey
Film God

Posts: 5895
From: Bristol. United Kingdom
Registered: Oct 2007

posted May 25, 2013 10:36 AM

The Bell & Howell 3580 Slot-Load is made by Eiki. It is badged as a Bell & Howell.
It is the same as the Eiki SSL-0 Standard Slot Load.

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Maurice

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Bill Phelps
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1482
From: USA
Registered: Jan 2009

posted May 26, 2013 02:40 PM

Thanks for pointing that out Maurice...I just assumed everyone knew.

Bill [Smile]

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Elyas Tesfaye
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 520
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Registered: Nov 2012

posted May 27, 2013 10:38 AM

WOW!!!

thanks a lot, guys!!! I have a few follow up questions [Smile]

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Jim and the gang: 200-250 watts? That's way lower than my Pageant of 750, 1000 or 1200 watts, though incandescent. I wanna know if the EIKI is Halogen? Jus wanna know if I can get a brighter image as the church hall we use for projection is rather large and the long throw is affecting brightness, please help [Frown]

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Thanks again, fellas, and can't wait to hear back from y'all [Smile]

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Best,
ET

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Maurice Leakey
Film God

Posts: 5895
From: Bristol. United Kingdom
Registered: Oct 2007

posted May 27, 2013 10:22 AM

Elyas
The ELC lamp is halogen.
The Eiki has an f1.2 lens, whereas (I believe) the Kodak Pageant has an f1.6.
An f1.2 lens will probably pass almost twice the amount of light than an F1.6 lens so you should have no problems with screen brightness.

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Elyas Tesfaye
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 520
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Registered: Nov 2012

posted May 28, 2013 06:22 AM

Thanks a lot once more, fellas [Smile]

!!! A few more follow up questions yet again [Smile]

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1) Availability of lamps for these bad boys.
2) How do they fair on kindness to film as compared with an incandescent Pageant?
3) What would be a reasonable price for one in decent working order?

Thanks again [Big Grin]

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Best,
ET

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