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Elyas Tesfaye
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 520
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Registered: Nov 2012

posted May 08, 2013 01:19 PM

Hi all,

I ordered a few movies a while back n got em on cores. I really hate when people do that, I wasn't expecting them on cores as they didn't say anything about that. I manually (not to mention painstakingly) loaded em on a reel but now have to free the reel. How do I get em back on these stupid cores? Aargh... HELP, PLEASE!!!

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Vidar Olavesen
Film God

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From: Sarpsborg, Norway
Registered: Nov 2012

posted May 08, 2013 01:33 PM

You need a split reel I believe. Luckily I never have to put them back onto cores, but I've had a few I needed to put onto reels and balancing and feeding onto a reel, it's a tedious operation.

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Elyas Tesfaye
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Registered: Nov 2012

posted May 08, 2013 01:37 PM

Thanks a lot, Vidar... Now, I sure hope there's a lot of Canadian members on our forum as I have a few awesome 16mm shorts I'd like to sell [Smile]

!!!

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Vidar Olavesen
Film God

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From: Sarpsborg, Norway
Registered: Nov 2012

posted May 08, 2013 01:54 PM

From Urbanski's site :

http://moviecraft.tripod.com/supplies.html

•SPLIT REELS- NEW ALUMINUM for coring, or un-coring film. Available in 16mm, or 35mm. Top quality! Sizes: 400ft…$75 1200ft…$89 2000ft…$126 Also available in 8mm (Custom order, add $20 )

As you can see, quite expensive

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Gerald Santana
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Cottage Grove OR
Registered: Dec 2010

posted May 08, 2013 02:00 PM

Elyas,

You need manual rewinds and a split reel you can easily make out of cardboard, if you can not afford the real ones at the moment.

Trace the reel size onto two pieces of cardboard and cut them out. Make a hole in the center just large enough to go onto the rewinds or your projector.

Place one side of the split reel onto your rewind/projector then mount the film on the core with the perforation out. Add cotton or newspaper to balance film on the core. Finally, place the other side of the split reel and clamp down. Now you can rewind the film onto a reel or forward the film back onto a core.

It's far from painstaking if you have the right tools, even if they are improvised. That is the purpose of the tool, to reduce the amount of work.

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Elyas Tesfaye
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 520
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Registered: Nov 2012

posted May 08, 2013 04:27 PM

Dearest Vidar and Gerald,

thank you both, gentlemen, I really appreciate all the priceless help and hope you both are having a great week, cuz thanks 2 y'all, I am [Smile]

!!!

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Bill Brandenstein
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: California
Registered: Aug 2007

posted May 12, 2013 12:46 AM

Elyas, split reels come up on eBay quite regularly for a LOT less than the cost of new ones. With reliable rewinds and a good split reel or two, you might find you prefer storing some of your prints that way (on cores)!

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Maurice Leakey
Film God

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From: Bristol. United Kingdom
Registered: Oct 2007

posted May 12, 2013 02:53 AM

In the UK all 35mm cinema films always arrived on cores and had to be made up onto spools. This may have been that there was no standard shaft size for 35mm projectors and each cinema had a large supply of empty spools for their projectors.

I can still remember on the last night of a run that the manager would 'phone up to me in the projection room and say "film transport are waiting outside, have you finished plating off?"

At those times we had cross-overs with other cinemas who would start showing the film the next day and the film would travel over night.

We didn't use split spools, we just had a single plate, enough to hold a 2000' run. On the Rigby rewind was an arm which pivoted upwards and was spring loaded, it held the whole assembly. But it was quicker just to hold a finger against the side of the film to keep it tight against the plate. In one cinema where we had Kalee projectors we just put a core onto the take-up of each reel's last run, it saved a lot of time.

I should point out that I am referring to the early days, long before towers and cake-stands. Now, that's a different story!

But back to the original point. If split spools can be bought at a reasonable price then they are very handy, but for the occasional use a home-made affair would be just as useful.

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Maurice

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Elyas Tesfaye
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 520
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Registered: Nov 2012

posted May 20, 2013 11:42 PM

Dearest Maurice,

sorry for the late response as I'm just now seeing your response and boy did I breeze through it [Smile]

!!! Loved reading your words of wisdom and can't thank you enough for them, good sir... CHEERS [Big Grin]

!!!

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Mitchell Dvoskin
Expert Film Handler

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From: West Milford, NJ
Registered: Jun 2008

posted May 29, 2013 07:01 AM

> loaded em on a reel but now have to free the reel. How do I get em back on these stupid cores?

If you are planning to stay with this hobby, a split reel is a must.

However, empty reels are not very expensive. A cheaper solution for the problem at hand is just to buy some empty reels.

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Elyas Tesfaye
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 520
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Registered: Nov 2012

posted May 29, 2013 07:58 AM

Thanks a ton, Mitch [Smile]

!!!

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