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Topic: What's better LPP Cut prints or Faded Uncut
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Gilbert Lambert
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 184
From: Ostende, Belgium
Registered: May 2016
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posted April 15, 2017 09:20 AM
I would like opinions if possible. We collect edited versions in Super 8, but many LPP TV prints are lately for sale in 16mm . They seem cut. We like UNCUT theatrical prints. But .. even if scenes are cut , nudity or something else or language , would it not be better to own a cut print in LPP rather than a theatrical version faded? Other idea... when possible , add the faded cuts to the LPP print ? ( in both formats S8 - 16mm ) If it's about a missing scene or short sequence ... isn't that an option ? I don't know, so I ask opinions, - We like the best in colours , TV prints still seem affordable in 16mm , There's much more choice in 16mm than in Super 8 and at more reasonable prices, so it's still interesting to start collecting both formats and look for the better colours in LPP ? Thank you for your input here, Happy Easter, Gilbert
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David C. Lucidi
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Posts: 127
From: Glenolden, PA, USA
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted April 17, 2017 12:34 PM
I think it depends on the movie and context.
I have a VERY nice print of Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978). It's a TV print. But, the only TV edit is at the end when Brooke Adams 'converts' to a pod person, the nudity is obscured more with the grass, and then shortly after in the warehouse scene, she is wearing a red dress (in the theatrical version she is nude for a few seconds). To me, that's a minor thing and doesn't take away from the movie experience at all.
On the flip side, I have a fading theatrical print of 9 to 5. Lots of cursing (PG style), and some use of the b-word to describe women (Dabney Coleman plays a sexist male chauvinistic boss). I had won a LPP print on Ebay a few years back....and it was a TV edit. ALL of the good lines were cut, and the pot sequence (when the women get high and fantasize about how they'd kill their boss) was trimmed or cut. To me, in a case like that, it ruins the overall feel of the movie because now you don't see just how much of a jerk Coleman's character was supposed to be, among other things. The overall feel of the movie loses it's comedic edge when trimmed so much. I sent it back and still have my fading print.
It also depends WHERE the print originated from, and how much was cut. A friend of mine bought a print of Spaceballs while in Germany (and it was an English version with no subtitles). It had all of the curse words intact, except the one F word at the end (when the try to use the 'Cancel Self Destruct' button). In that case, missing the F word wasn't a big deal. But I have seen other TV edits of Spaceballs, where the "A-hole" scene is cut, and a bunch of other jokes were cut too -- totally ruined the movie in my opinion.
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