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Colin White
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From: Sussex England
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 - posted October 17, 2011 07:16 AM      Profile for Colin White   Author's Homepage   Email Colin White   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello all,
My first time here, I wonder if any members live close to Eastfield Road, in Northern Charlotte USA as I have seen a great Elmo projector up for sale there but I am in the UK ! I am hoping someone could have a look at it for me as the price is too good to be true and I don’t want to get scammed.
Thanks in advance,
Colin.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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 - posted October 17, 2011 11:32 AM      Profile for Winbert Hutahaean     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Colin,

I found that ad too ...but it has been sold.... [Wink]

cheers

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Colin White
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 - posted October 17, 2011 11:41 AM      Profile for Colin White   Author's Homepage   Email Colin White   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well he Emailed me today asking if i want it and he will send me a paypal request plus $200 shipping,so iam not sure.
Too good to be true ??

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Jon Addams
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 - posted October 17, 2011 12:28 PM      Profile for Jon Addams     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Colin,

I have a close friend who lives in that area, sent me the info and I see what I can do.

You can post the information here or send it to me jaddams55 at hotmail dot com.

Regards,

Jon

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Colin White
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 - posted October 17, 2011 01:54 PM      Profile for Colin White   Author's Homepage   Email Colin White   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks all,
but he just emailed me hes sold it for $85 plus an extra $5 !!
It was an Elmo GS 1200 ....Ahh.."http://charlotte.craigslist.org/clt/2590092517.html"

lol I missed a good one there !

Cheers for the replys tho

Colin.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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 - posted October 17, 2011 02:05 PM      Profile for Winbert Hutahaean     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
BTW Colin welcome to the forum. We hope you are not joining this forum just for this item. We need more people to keep this format alive. What sort of film are you collecting?

And BTW about the above item, you might be "missed a good one there !" or as you mentioned earlier that you are now saved from the scam. Who knows?

[Wink]

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Colin White
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 - posted October 17, 2011 02:21 PM      Profile for Colin White   Author's Homepage   Email Colin White   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Winbert,
No I am here just for the above, I want to get into any old film footage; I would like to by a reasonable projector but have limited funds! Trying EBay at the moment.
I am not into old movies as much as seeing the past, people, areas, cars, clothes etc. I was collecting, Cuckoo clocks, then 50, 60's moving alarm clocks, but since looking at what’s available in the way of home movies, I can’t wait to give this a go. So I am looking for UK shot stuff as old as possible.
And Thanks for the welcome, [Smile]
Cheers
Colin.

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Colin White
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 - posted October 18, 2011 10:12 AM      Profile for Colin White   Author's Homepage   Email Colin White   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
So Winbert did you buy my Elmo find ?
I emailed the seller David asking if it was still for sale, and he replied saying it was and after a few more exchanged emails I get a method of paying and shipping costs, now I am thinking have I got the bargain of the century or am I just about to be ripped off ?
I knew of the 8mm forum and quickly signed up; posting my first post asking if anyone is near to this seller, hoping for some overseas help, very quickly I had some replies one offering help and another from Winbert Hutahaean who said he had also seen the add but it was now sold.
Oh well I thought another deal missed, but I decided as I had already organised this deal I would email David back to see if it was me who he had sold it too and this was his reply.... I sold it this morning ... A gentleman called me, offered to pay the full price + $5 (with PayPal) & to have Fed Ex pick it up for him ... Is this perhaps the person you are mentioning below? His name is Winbert Hutahaean ...

So Its funny that Winbert should then post this to me “And BTW about the above item, you might be "missed a good one there !" or as you mentioned earlier that you are now saved from the scam. Who knows?”
So I don’t know what’s happening here, have I been naive or stupid? Probably both, it’s a pity as I am not too well off and an Elmo GS1200 at that price would have solved my problems!
I am not pointing my finger at anyone and good luck to them, perhaps I have it all wrong but I would prefer a bit of honesty.

[ October 18, 2011, 11:57 AM: Message edited by: Colin White ]

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Michael O'Regan
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 - posted October 18, 2011 11:52 AM      Profile for Michael O'Regan   Email Michael O'Regan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
A GS1200 at $85 is certainly a bargain. What's the catch? Is it in good working order?

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Winbert Hutahaean
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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
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 - posted October 18, 2011 10:41 PM      Profile for Winbert Hutahaean     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Colin, why we are some kind like having a dispute here for an uncertain item?

One and foremost, the projector is listed in a public area (craiglist) where everyone can read. So you don't need to use the word "my elmo find".

I have read this ad long time before you put it here. If you want to know, this projector was first time listed on craiglist on Sept 19th, 2011 and the price was initially $125.

It was still good for an Elmo but like yourself I was too worried to get scammed. It was not the price of projector which worried me but the shipping cost would empty my wallet if I sent the whole money to him.

Do you want to know, ....no taker for $125 so on the beginning of October he dropped the price to $95.

Still I was puzzling how to pay only for the price of projector (which I thought I could gamble with that) and pay the shipping in Canada.

Finally it came to my mind to set up a FedEx account therefore the seller could send under my account and I didn't need to send him so much money.

However, setting up the account was taking so much my time and eventually, I forgot it at all.

Then you came up with your post and quickly helped me to remind about the whole story above. So I came back to FedEx to finalize everything and got an account. I called David and he asked to be paid via paypal (with +$5 for fees). And at that time David has already again decreased the price to $85!!

Yesterday I was thinking if I got a good deal or got scamed? And as I said "who knows". I need to wait, I gambled with my money there.

This afternoon was a pick up time. I called David and he said the projector had been picked up by the FedEx. I asked for the tracking, he said "there is no any".

Funny huh... so I called FedEx and FedEx said.......

"David cancelled the shipment!".

So I don't know what is happening now.

There are two scenarios might happen:

1. I was totally scamed and loose my money
2. Someone offered David with higher price and he took it.

If no. 2 happened, why he said that FedEx had picked it up? I am not sure if he is trying to scam other buyer. So just beware!!.

For my self, I am still waiting until tommorow and if this really happen to me and I lost my money, rest assured that my $85 is enough to report the seller to the authority and I knew he was also running a business as a trade assistant.

So I just need to prepare for another battle. Lucky me that as a foreign service officer, I have many friends posted in the USA that can follow this up for me.

Back to the projector, let me tell you, are you sure that you can use this projector in the UK.

Remember that USA uses 115v and 60 Hz while UK is 250v and 50 hz.

Read about that here:

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Electrical-Engineering-1356/vs-UK-electricity.htm

All projectors sold in the USA (and Canada) do not have voltage selector like those in other countries. It is set up ONLY for USA and Canada with that voltage.

If you bring a projector from USA to UK, once you put the projector to the electric outlet, you will burn it instantly.

The only way to deal with this is to buy a voltage step up/step down.

But since the projector is a sensitive machine to the frequency, the different frequencies between USA and UK will create another problem. The voltage step up/step down will not change the frequency and to my knowledge there is no such machine that can convert the frequency.

Because you cannot change the frequency, the projector will run faster (or slower?) in the UK. Some projecors have a pulley that yo can use to adjust the speed, but I don't think this Elmo can, because it uses AC motor. Many experts here can chime in.

So you don't need to get mad here.

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Winbert

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Martin Jones
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 - posted October 19, 2011 03:21 PM      Profile for Martin Jones     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Also a lesson to be learned here... if you want to buy something, don't tell Winbert about it.

And for Winbert's information... the GS1200 motor is NOT frequency sensitive... and voltage differences are no big deal these days as Auto Transformers are two a penny. Also, you CAN change frequency with a programmable Inverter.... but a bit expensive.

Martin.

[ October 20, 2011, 03:58 AM: Message edited by: Martin Jones ]

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Leon Thomas Jones
Expert Film Handler

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From: United Kingdon
Registered: Sep 2011


 - posted October 20, 2011 02:59 AM      Profile for Leon Thomas Jones     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Winbert,
Thank you for your kind explanations.Your story has been a great learning for me and I dearly hope you get your money back.
Regards
Leon

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Winbert Hutahaean
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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
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 - posted October 20, 2011 11:20 AM      Profile for Winbert Hutahaean     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
[UPDATE] I called the seller and David still claims that projector has been picked up by FedEx. While on the other hand, FedEx says never picked up the item.

Very funny...!

Lucky me that I have sent wrong FedEx shipment documents to David. I sent him "Express Way Bill" while I scheduled pick up for a "Ground service".

It is the ground service driver who came to David but FedEx says Ground service driver will never pick up any item labeled with Express because they are two different services.

So I am afraid David never sent the item.... [Wink]

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Winbert Hutahaean
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 - posted November 05, 2011 12:45 AM      Profile for Winbert Hutahaean     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Update....update.....

Although David is not a member of this forum, and for sure he will not read this post but I have to write here that he is a true gentleman, and he never lied about the projector.

He has sent the projector and it is because the STUPIDITY of FedEx, the projector has just arrived this afternoon (Nov 4th).

From the FedEx tracking system shows that the projector has been sitting in FedEx terminal for more than 2 weeks without any shipment was ever made. So the fact is David had given the projector to FedEx on the pick up day (Oct 18), but FedEx is too lazy to follow that up.

More story about this will be told in different thread after I open the box and test it. Let this post is closed now.

O yeah...

quote:
A GS1200 at $85 is certainly a bargain. What's the catch?
Ehmmmm..... send the money [Razz] and I got a GS1200 projector with cord, soft cover, a 24v 240w lamp, Lens 1.1 and.....

quote:
Is it in good working order?
I don't know, just follow my next post [Wink]

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