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  • #1

    Super 8 Camera Scope Lens

    Greetings friends!

    I've been shooting Super 8 film for the past few years with my Yashica Electro 600 for my personal enjoyment. I mostly shoot for family holidays and short films, but I was wanting to know if there are any quality lens attachments for shooting film in scope?

    Thanks,
    Lincoln
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  • #2
    Lincoln, I would recommend the Kowa Prominar 8-Z Anamorphic lens. I used mine to film and project and had very good results. Here is a video from Youtube that shows another user's results:


    Out by the seaside field testing the highly coveted Kowa Prominar 8-Z x2 anamorphic lens. Known also as the 16-H or B&H overseas, this is a top-tier Japanese adaptor which captures very sharp and expressive images, with a slight vintage tone to the overall aesthetics. A superb lens with high-end cinematics and production value. Camera: Panasonic Lumix S1H. Captured using V-Log profile in 4K-A (4:3) anamorphic format. Lenses and filters: Helios 44-2 58mm f/2 and Samyang 85mm f/1.4. Rapido FVD-16A single focus adaptor. Various standard dioptres and variable ND filter. Edited using Premiere Pro 2023. Colour graded with Lumetri Color and Magic Bullet Looks. V-Log to Rec.709 conversion LUTs by Bounce Color. Exported at 2.41:1 aspect ratio.​

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    • #3
      Lincoln, I would second that. Kowa 8-Z definitely.

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      • #4
        Hi!

        You might want to read this article: https://web.archive.org/web/20160404...super8_39.html (Unfortunately, the second part of this article never got released.)
        The article mentions a Kowa "2X Anamorphic for Bell and Howell​". Optically, it’s as good as the Kowa 8z. And it fits better onto e.g. my Nizo 4056 than the 8z. (I own both of them.)
        Please keep in mind that 90% of all attachments require you to focus with both the camera and the attachment. This is cumbersome. Basically only the Iscorama series is „single focus“, but only has a 1.5x (de)squeeze. (Okay, there are now a few re-housed 2x Iscos/Kowas/Sankyos that have been converted to „single focus“. But don’t ask for the price without being seated. )

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        • #5
          As crazy as it was at the time, back in the late 1980's ( when I first collected super 8), actually took a big old German scope lense and I duct taped it, ( I kid you not ) onto the from of my super 8 sound camera. Naturally, after a little while, the duct tape would loosen, and it wouldn't work, but when it worked, I got really good anamorphic images from that lense on Super 8. Boy! I could have really used one of those Kowa lenses back then!

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          • #6
            Osi, I did the same back in the 90's when I taped my Kowa 8-Z to the front barrel on my Sankyo camera.

            I pointed it at some vertical lines on a piece of paper to line up up straight.

            The results were great, although it was interesting framing the shots and kind of imagining how they would look when projected, as obviously all you can see in the viewfinder is the squeezed image.

            Must dig those films out...

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            • #7
              Hi!

              As for desqueezing the image in the viewfinder: Some Double8-cameras had an adapter that led to the correct image in the viewfinder. On some non-reflex-models, this was just a mask, on other models this was a tiny anamorphic attachment, e.g.
              https://kameramuseum.de/wp-content/u...amorphot-1.jpg

              Did anyone ever tried the same for a Super8-camera, e.g. attaching one of those tiny anamorphics for smartphones to the viewfinder or by using a video tap with digital desqueeze?​

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              • #8
                Fascinating, Joerg. I'd never heard of viewfinder adaptors to view the de-squeezed image.

                As for the video link from Ed; just goes to show what a great lens the Kowa 8-Z is when you see the resolution using a 4K camera.

                (I recognise the location as Formby beach as I have filmed there several times!)

                And you get that anamorphic lens flare that was all the rage a few years back. Never really got it myself; J.J. Abrams was obsessed with it to the point of distraction.

                Given that the Kowa 8-Z was designed primarily as a lens for super 8, it really holds it's own in todays high resolution world.

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                • #9
                  WideScreen Center UK Catalogue 1972 leaflet cine scope 8mm projectors lens film, full of Information.


                  https://www.ebay.com/itm/11655910909...4AAOSwQSxmN0Q3

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