8mm Magnetic film striping at home

[Winbert Hutahaean]

Winbert, same link as above : http://www.ffr-film.de/index.php?page=band&language=eng

Thanks Dom... apparently they slit from reel-to-reel 1/4" tape.

[Brian Fretwell]

I remember that Balfour said they did that too. The day I went there they had just slit some the day before.

[Lee Mannering]

Nice to see a post from Robin and one of the nicest Super 8 guys in the UK, with a smattering of 16mm :-)

Yes in later years CRESTA over here couldn't get stripe anymore when supply stopped so the started slitting REEL TO REEL TAPE. Worked fine but will need to be accurate.

I'm mixing my own adhesive as a trial and have several people testing it before I start stocking it within my media business. Whens its guaranteed perfect it will be on sale. Not a sales pitch.
Several collector friends called to my studio this week (one at a time) and all have heard the results of my striping/dubbing finally projected on the Elmo.

History: Late 70's 80's when I had significant hair I used to go around parts of the UK demonstrating how good home striping could be. I used to invite people to bring a short film, stripe it and record a sound track for them. At the end of the night we watched all the films REELY good fun.

Took all the latest S8 sound kit with me and we had lots of fun.

[Osi Osgood]

Even if using ancient technology, it would be wonderful if someone on this forum or elsewhere, would open up a shop to professionally stripe film! It's of course possible to slit existing magnetic tape, and finding the proper fixitive, and I would think that if one was to add stripe to a feature, for instance, one would need a small motor to have the striping be even as well as not needing to be constantly cranking a knob, but to have a U.S. source would be fantastic!

[Philip Hamilton]

Finding ANYONE who will do Magnetic Striping today on Super 8mm is pretty much like finding the Holy Grail. I contacted 4 companies today that I thought might be able to point to someone who does this - All but one said that "They had no idea." And these are companies who deal with processing Super 8mm so I thought I might get somewhere.

One company did say that they thought there was this guy in Germany or Italy that will do it. Correct answer is Italy and I am guessing that he was referring to Angelo V. Unfortunately, I just heard that Angelo's Super 8mm striping machine is in need of a new ink wheel and it is being machined.

Could it be that Angelo is the only person in the world that offers this service? I hear he does great work. So, yes, it would be nice if someone in the USA would also offer this service.

Sounds like an interesting opportunity for someone who has access to the correct machines and has the time to figure it all out.

[Burton Sundquist]

There has been many posts regarding the excellent quality and service provided by Alberto Vangelisti. Philip, if you do find a source in the U.S. Please post it for us.

[Dominique De Bast]

Philip, Alberto provides that service in Italy and FFR in Germany (FFR-Film Idstein - Ihr Partner für Filmtechnik, Schmalfilmzubehör und Kinotechnik 8, 16 und 35mm). They don't use the same technique, from what I understand.

[Philip Hamilton]

Right. It's Alberto. Not Angelo. Yes he seems to be the 'go to' guy for sure. I hope his equipment is repaired as scheduled by September. Waiting on on some Super 8mm prints.

[Philip Hamilton]

I would love to give home striping a shot on Super 8mm. That way I could create my own stripe and outsource the recording at very reasonable prices.

For those wondering Alberto at Movie Magnetic still stripes 8mm but now also requires SOUND RECORDING services when you order the striping. This unfortunately creates a lot of extra expense. If you have the money and you want a one-stop shop Alberto may be your solution. But I know for many who want to do their own recording this does present financial challenges onto of a sometimes pricey hobby.

A Rexette huh? Would love to give this a shot.

If there is ANYONE out there willing to provide striping for me on two 600 foot Super 8mm reels - I would pay for the service. Why keep this fun stuff to yourself? Haha. Please PM me. Thanks.

[Rodney Bourke]

Sound Stripe and Cement available from Wittner-cinetec Germany.

https://www.wittnercinetec.com/epage...ies/Tontechnik

[Lee McCaffrey]

I forget if this has been brought up here before but can polyester stock be striped with anything other than paste? I didn't think the tape stripe could be bonded to polyester, only acetate

[Osi Osgood]

Good heavens, Lee! You have been making this a lifelong hobby, striping that it. Funny, i happen to have some ole cement lying around here, that I took off of an old defunct standard 8mm projector, it's a whole unit that had a fold out splicing machine, that had it's own little bottles of adhesive or cement. Is that the same stuff as the glue used for todays striping? I kind of doubt that the stuff I have would still be good. That projector must be from the 50's or 60's.

[Fruma Elizabeth]

Earlier in this thread there were some references to cleaning the film being the main sticking point with home striping. Does anybody have any literature/advice on that front? Like, what cleaner would one use? If its a special chemistry, where could it be sourced? The obvious answer to the latter is FFR, but I'd love to hear some more detail about it.

[Douglas Meltzer]

Fruma,

If I plan on striping a film, I do not use any cleaner or lubricant on it since I don't want to take the chance of the stripe failing to adhere to the print. Working with a pair of rewinds, I use a cloth (or a number of them) to gently wipe away any dirt and also check for any sprocket damage. After striping, I rewind the film tightly on the reel and let it sit in the open for a couple of days. I then run it through a projector which helps even out the stripe. After I do a recording and check that the audio is good, I clean/lubricate the print with FilmGuard.

[Fruma Elizabeth]

Fruma,

If I plan on striping a film, I do not use any cleaner or lubricant on it since I don't want to take the chance of the stripe failing to adhere to the print. Working with a pair of rewinds, I use a cloth (or a number of them) to gently wipe away any dirt and also check for any sprocket damage. After striping, I rewind the film tightly on the reel and let it sit in the open for a couple of days. I then run it through a projector which helps even out the stripe. After I do a recording and check that the audio is good, I clean/lubricate the print with FilmGuard.

Thanks! Great to know. I've got some supplies on the way for striping/recording, so I'm gonna keep reading up on it in the meantime. Hoping to have a go at it soon!