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  • Bell & Howell 254rs age?, dim bulb?, oiling fan?

    Hello, I can't seem to find a manual for the Bell & Howell 254rs, so I was wondering a few things:

    -What year was this projector likely made? It's manual feed.
    -Do projector bulbs dim when they are reaching the end of life? It's a Sylvania DFN 150W bulb.
    -Can the fan mechanism be easily oiled through the door below the bulb? I've included a photo below.

    I'm watching some 1960's home movies that I purchased about 10 years ago from different eBay sources. The projection appears a bit dim to me, but I have old eyes 😊 And I don't have a lot of recent experience projecting 8mm film. But I find myself wanting to reach for a brightness control 😀 I do realize too that it could be the age/condition of the film and/or less than optimum recording conditions when the home movie was originally filmed. I have cleaned the film. Also, I haven't done much of anything to maintain the projector yet. It has about 2-3 hours of use since I bought it about 10 years ago via Craigslist. Hence I'm looking for a copy if the manual to figure out how to properly clean the lens, film transfers, plus oil the fan, etc. Any comments/suggestions appreciated. Thank you.

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  • #2
    I can only say that some lamps do dim due to deposits of tungsten from the filament condensing on the envelope of the bulb. I quartz halogen ones it is normally due to slight finger marks so always wipe if you even brush a finger on it. Non halogen ones suffer more from this. Diathermic reflectors also sometimes age badly reflecting less light through the aperture than when new.

    I have no knowledge of this projector.

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    • #3
      Looks like this projector has not reached the European market since it doesn't appear on Van Eck's Spare Finder page. 150 watt sounds good but it also depends on how the bulb is positioned (it can make a huge difference), on the lens and on the surface you're projecting on (that last element is often neglected).

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      • #4
        Jerry
        There is a touch of deja vu here.
        8mm Forum: Bell and Howell 254RS 8mm projector manual? (film-tech.com)

        Have a look at the lamp, after all this time it may have darkened or its reflector may not be perfect. Of course, the prints that you are running may not have been exposed correctly.
        Bell & Howell 254RS 8mm lamp - Replacement Bulb - DFN-DFC (porterdeals.com)

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        • #5
          Thank you for the replies & links. And yes, I posted here about 10 years ago when I bought this projector, plus some film. And then we promptly moved across the country. So the projector & film have been in storage again for quite awhile 😊 I will check the bulb in more detail. Not sure yet where the reflector is. As for the reflecting surface, a white wall with the projector approx. 28' away. So rather nice large projection. Difficult for me to focus from the distance because of my poor eyesight, but there could also be a problem with the projector and/or film(s). In fact, I find it interesting that when I think I have it focused, I then I walk close the the projection on the wall, it appears a bit out of focus. Thus I have to watch the film at about half the distance. Of course the film exposure during filming could be much of the problem as these are home movies from the late 50's to early 60's, with likely camera operator error. I really need to buy a factory film to use as a test guide. Thanks again for the replies. Below are a few more photos, in case you're interested.

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          • #6
            It seems that your lens has a 1.6 aperture. That may explain why your picture doesn't look very bright.

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            • #7
              [QUOTE=Jerry Coker;n38945]... Not sure yet where the reflector is... /QUOTE]

              Jerry
              The reflector is integral within the lamp. There is no external reflector.

              Bell & Howell 254RS 8mm lamp - Replacement Bulb - DFN-DFC (porterdeals.com)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Dominique De Bast View Post
                It seems that your lens has a 1.6 aperture. That may explain why your picture doesn't look very bright.
                Ahh, so perhaps a small aperture doesn't allow a lot of light, thus dimmer than a larger aperture? I believe this an older projector, perhaps 1950's, but I'm not sure. Thus it might be an early B&H model with a small lens, compared to later models. Thank you for the reply.

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                • #9
                  [QUOTE=Maurice Leakey;n38954]
                  Originally posted by Jerry Coker View Post
                  ... Not sure yet where the reflector is... /QUOTE]

                  Jerry
                  The reflector is integral within the lamp. There is no external reflector.

                  Bell & Howell 254RS 8mm lamp - Replacement Bulb - DFN-DFC (porterdeals.com)
                  Thank you, I did not know that. I just gently cleaned the bulb, lens & film transfers. Most if the dirt appeared on the transfers, but not much. I did find a short Woody Woodpecker film I forgot I had, and will test it tonight to see how bright the projection is, to compare with the home movies. As an aside, are home movies likely to suffer from poor focus & dimness at different intervals on the same 6" reel? My guess is yes, but I don't have a lot of hours viewing home movie film. Just curious because I too wondered if dimness & poor focusing could be a projector problem. Thank you for the reply.

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                  • #10
                    So after spending some time this weekend with this projector I've come to the conclusion that it does not project a bright enough image for my taste. I watched all my film, about a dozen reels of home movies, plus a couple short studio films, and all of them projected with the same dimness. So I believe the projector has an underwhelming lamp, and/or the small aperture lens is just not large enough to project an image that I like (not letting in enough light?). Other than that, I enjoy running this projector. So I may eventually look for another 8mm or maybe a Super 8mm projector that renders a brighter image. Just not in the market right now. One last question, I assume a new lamp would not make a significant difference with thus projector? I know it's hard to know w/o seeing an image, but just wondered if newer lamps are brighter? Thanks for your assistance/comments!

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                    • #11
                      AFAIK non-halogen 150w lamp would be miles behind, say, contemporary EFP 12v 100w halogen lamp. With 1.6 lens would add even more handicapped to the system.

                      The availability of the replacement lamp would be quite a BIG issue also. The suggested $99 price as in Maurice's link doesn't make much sense - at least to me. A good working Sankyo Dualux 1000H/2000H can be had for about the same amount of money...hmmmmmm.

                      Yes those good-ole projectors look damn cool. But it would be better to have a later model projector that comes with better lamp & lens as the workhorse, and have this B&H as the display unit.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Nantawat Kittiwarakul View Post
                        AFAIK non-halogen 150w lamp would be miles behind, say, contemporary EFP 12v 100w halogen lamp. With 1.6 lens would add even more handicapped to the system.

                        The availability of the replacement lamp would be quite a BIG issue also. The suggested $99 price as in Maurice's link doesn't make much sense - at least to me. A good working Sankyo Dualux 1000H/2000H can be had for about the same amount of money...hmmmmmm.

                        Yes those good-ole projectors look damn cool. But it would be better to have a later model projector that comes with better lamp & lens as the workhorse, and have this B&H as the display unit.
                        Thank you the the reply and feedback/comments. Much appreciated! I've heard of that Sankyo, I think it comes with variable speed too. You're right about these older projectors. They DO look cool, but may be too far from what I'm used to in moving pictures 😊 Obviously I've got some things to think about now. Thanks again for the feedback!

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                        • #13
                          Jerry
                          Here's a nice Sankyo 2000H dual gauge projector. It's not cheap at $150 or best offer, (plus postage), but it's the best of the Sankyo dual gauge models and it uses a still widely available lamp which is quite cheap. The 100watt, 12volt EFP.

                          I have one of these and can highly recommend it.

                          Vintage Sankyo Dualux 2000H Super8 Standard 8 Movie Projector - Tested | eBay

                          Lamp, A1/231 12v 100w Efp Sylvania : Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo

                          Sankyo Dualux 2000-H – Spare Part Finder – Van Eck Video Services (van-eck.net)

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                          • #14
                            Thank you Maurice, I'll check that model out. I do now see the advantage of having a projector that is not too difficult to get parts for!

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                            • #15
                              Quick question, does the Sankyo 2000H mentioned above come with a special take up reel, or will any 8mm take up reel work (since it appears to be self threading)? Thank you.

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