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  • #16
    You're not kidding Joseph. Eumig made so many. Lee mentioned he has a Bi-Ton de Lux which is part of the 800 series. Well at least in my eyes. I think I have 5 710D's which are all different, livery mainly. The P8s have their iterations. Even thought I have stopped buying projectors in favour of media to project. There's still those nagging holes in my collection that need filling. The 701 and 709 are teasing me. But they're a pair!
    Stamps would have been an easier hobby!

    Forgot to mention, Nick. Thanks for the offer on the 712. Just a little to late in the range. 😊 pm sent.

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    • #17
      Stuart, both the 701 and the 709 are great machines! And both use the same vacuum tube amp too.

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      • #18
        Just watched Erik's video on the Bauer T22 Joseph. As he states, he wouldn't have a Bauer in his collection if it wasn't made by Eumig. A 709. I like the idea of both as you mention. They're valve amps. The 701 is super 8 only (single too). It's also began in 1966. The year I was born. So, sentimental if you like that sort of thing. The 709 though draws me a lttle more as it's dual gauge. It also has a little novelty, I think, in having S and N. As I mentioned earlier, the gauge naming convention is a little confusing for new users. It's quick to resolve but confusing.
        For example "this can playback both Single 8 and Super 8" that could be thought of as dual format. But isn't as Standard 8 is lacking. I'm guessing N is Normal 8.
        If it is then I could use that to help guide new users whilst mentioning gates.
        I think it was an advertising ploy back in the day to write Super 8 Single 8 Standard 8. Tri gauge 8mm/9.5mm/16mm and have a Ricoh TriScope. I just need to make sure I don't add to any confusion, if any.
        I also like the design of the 701/709 with the smile for the film path. 712 too but transistor.
        I'll see what pops up in the coming months.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Lee Mannering View Post
          Me 2 Arnau. Eumig (pronounced Oimig) 807D 1972 still works perfectly and in its box a little treasure of my childhood.
          Just watching a YouTube video by Petr Harmy "Retro Tech - Eumig Mark S 712 D 8mm Film Projector" from 2016. He talks about his involvement in despecializing Star Wars. Eastman prints vs Technicolor. Very knowledgeable in the subtleties. And yes, Oimig. 😊

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          • #20
            Single 8 is the same thing as Super 8 as far as the projector is concerned. It was what Fugi used to call their film. I believe it used a different type of film cassette in the camera but the film is exactly the same as Super 8. I don't really know about film cameras so someone more into that aspect may chime in and correct me if I'm wrong.

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            • #21
              That's actually what I've got, cameras to aid the explination on gauge. A Eumig Super 8 and a Fuji Single 8. One each for sound and silent. I'm not 100% sure but I assume the audio offset on Super and Single is also exactly the same. I also bought a Standard (Regular/Double/Normal) 8 camera to show the difference. Just haven't got around to the video. Don't know enough.
              Edit.
              https://eumig.at/index.php?option=co...=98&Itemid=200
              The link has the Eumig Mark S as Super 8. 1964-70. However, it looks Standard 8 only. So this is as Joseph mentioned. The Mark S is either Regular 8, I guess, early 1964 then changed to Super 8 by 1970. 1965 being the introduction of Super 8(acetate) and Single 8(polyester(thinner)).
              Last edited by Stuart Budd; January 19, 2022, 03:23 PM.

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              • #22
                Joseph you are correct Single 8 was the film format introduced by Fuji back in the 60's. The cartridge is much different than Super 8. However, both formats are the same once processed, and run in a projector. The first photo below shows the Single 8mm cart along side a Fuji camera. The second photo of course is a Super 8mm cartridge. The modern day Ektachrome 100D color reversal which I currently use myself.

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