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Apocalyptic Events Now in Hollywood, the Shocking thing is, it's happing in the Middle of Winter.
Youtube is Full of these Live Events, not even a Motion Picture Movie could match this Scale of Disaster.
Terrible destruction. What made matters worse was that the Palisades aqueduct/pool had been empty, for repairs, since February of last year. They had no water to tap for the fire! Heads will roll.
It’s absolutely tragic. Saw a guy being interviewed and he said that 70% don’t have insurance. Is this because insurance for that area is too expensive?
It’s absolutely tragic. Saw a guy being interviewed and he said that 70% don’t have insurance. Is this because insurance for that area is too expensive?
The fire hydrants were not working or maintained. They drained the reservoir that served that area of LA.
The insurance companies knew became aware of that information and decided to canceled all fire insurance to certain areas six months ago.
Sheer massive criminal incompetence and jobsworths who were not fit to be in their jobs. Sadly not a unique experience around the world. Just plain Stupid or just full of their own intelligence but with no Common Sense.
We have watching it on the news for the last few days, horrific the scenes of devastation, it appears to spread at an incredible speed, hope that wind driving it dies down soon.
I had friends that lived in pacific palisades, but they sold up some years back, after being offered a small fortune for the land their house stood on.
Having spent some time staying with them over the years, and knowing the area well, I can't believe that something like this has been allowed to happen.
Besides the deverstion of some of the most wonderful property's on the planet, this is also the home of some of the worlds priceless collections. Everything from the Getty museum of art, film and music vaults to private car collection, all irreplaceable to the world.
I guess it boils down to the same old greed and incompetence. When is the would ever going to learn.
Wild fires are really hard to try to control, just look at other countries such as Canada, Australia, Spain, with the problems they have had in the past. Fires in general are always extremely dangerous, such in ships, in planes, anywhere you can think of. Once a fire takes hold especially, and if the land is dry and warm strong winds are present, I am not sure anyone can really stop it, the temperature generated by fire is lethal. The main thing is to get away from it as quick as possible, property call be replaced, people cant, sadly in this case there has been folk who have lost there lives.
This is why I don't trust insurance companies, and while by law I have to have car insurance, ( another massive fraud on the American people), I will not have insurance otherwise. I have a friend back in Idaho, that has had proudly, in his opinion, life insurance since he has been in his 20's, and I asked him how much is it per year, then I asked him to multiply that amount by 35 years, and how much did it come to? "Now, think about all that cash, and what you could have done with that?". After all "insurance equity" doesn't mean a thing, as insurance companies will do there absolute best, to pay out as little as possible, danged shysters! My prayers are with these people that truly have lost everything. Now, more Santa Annas on the horizon.
Surely though anyone is taking a massive risk not having house insurance! I know insurance companies will not like paying out but will do eventually if the worse happens.
Insurance is an unfortunate necessity. Property very unwise not to be insured. Motor insurance a legal essential. Travel a definite if travelling abroad. Life insurance I know where you are coming from. Once you are dead insurance companies look, for every reason not to pay.
In relation to Los Angeles there is a story why insurance companies suddenly cancelled fire insurance six months ago. They were aware of what was coming.
Wonder how many historical parts of Hollywood history are gone forever?
There’s a hard math behind the Los Angeles-area firestorm: When a two-story house is on fire under normal circumstances, three engines and a minimum of 16 crew members are generally dispatched.
But as Pacific Palisades homes began to catch fire on Jan. 7, “there were probably at least, within the first two hours, 100 structures fully involved,” said Jack Cohen, a research scientist who spent decades studying fire dynamics with the U.S. Forest Service.
“You can’t dispatch and organize enough engines to keep up,” he said — let alone fit that many vehicles on the region’s narrow, hillside roads.
In other words, when 70 mph winds are raining embers into suburban communities so achingly vulnerable to fire, extreme blazes are an inevitability that no number of firefighters can control. What begins as wildfire becomes an urban conflagration, with homes serving as the main fuel.
To Cohen, the finger-pointing that has ensued since the deadly fires broke out in Southern California — amid reports that hydrants ran dry, a reservoir was empty and extra firefighters were not positioned where fires erupted — is “nonsense.”
“The latest dribble with regard to too few crews, too little water, pre-positioning — what crock. None of that is relevant. None of that would have made an ounce of difference in the results,” he said.
A dozen experts — top fire officials, academic researchers, conservation advocates and scientists — told NBC News that instead, Southern California and other vulnerable areas need a transformational shift in mindset away from heavy reliance on firefighters to control blazes, and toward an understanding that vulnerable homes are themselves the primary fuel for these kinds of fires.
So, the homeowners are responsible for the fires, just having a home in the area?! I can't think of something more possibly insulting than that! Whoever made these statements, need to be fired! What a bunch of pompous idiots! ( This refers to the last paragraph in the previous post )
This can easily turn into a political thread. That article, what you posted, already has a lot of things wrong. Palisades fire started at 10:29, fire dept called then, when wind was not that bad. 45 minutes later a helicopter shows up. No fire engines no fire fighters. I saw a video of someone at the beginning of the fire. I wish it had been time-stamped. In the first 7 minutes, multiple houses on fire, no fire trucks, no fire fighters. Extremely poor fire response. Several former fire chiefs have said that during high winds there needs to be fire trucks positioned in high risk areas. None were. 1000 fire fighters could have stayed on a 2nd shift but were told to go home. Probably to save money. Now there's a fire in Castaic area.
Last edited by Larry Arpin; January 22, 2025, 05:19 PM.
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