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Janice Glesser
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 - posted November 18, 2011 12:35 PM      Profile for Janice Glesser     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It's a miracle :-)...Thank you!..Thank you!...Thank you! I managed to remove the glass without any major mishaps and the projected image is greatly improved.

I noticed Frank that the glass I removed was in 2 pieces. Is that the way it was intended or was mine broken? I think you can see it in the previous photos I posted.

It's a little hard to see in this snapshot but the image is much brighter and cleaner now. Focus seems to be consistent across the frame.

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Here's also a shot of my current telecine setup.

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Thanks again for all you help.

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frank arnstein
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 - posted November 18, 2011 05:05 PM      Profile for frank arnstein   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Janice
Glad to hear that the operation was a success. You must have followed the instructions to the letter so "well done" to you. What a difference its made to your picture, like chalk and cheese. A great result and I am most impressed with your transfer setup.

The Sankyo 1000 is capable of projecting excellently if everything is spot on and now it is.

The 2 glass pieces are normal. It is done to allow for expansion of the glass when its hot and prevents cracking.

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dogtor frankarnstein
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Barry Fritz
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 - posted November 19, 2011 11:37 PM      Profile for Barry Fritz   Email Barry Fritz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Just checked in and read the thread. Great to know Frank. Janice, what is the brand of the 45 degree telecine screen you are using? Looks kinda like it says FILM on it.

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Janice Glesser
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 - posted November 20, 2011 11:45 AM      Profile for Janice Glesser     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Barry, just do a search for "Telecine" on EBay. Here's a current link to one http://www.ebay.com/itm/VIDEO-TRANSFER-Telecine-D-I-Y-8mm-Super8-Movies-Slides-Film-Digital-DVD-/250934798090?pt=US_Movie_Slide_Projectors&hash=item

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Barry Fritz
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 - posted November 20, 2011 03:50 PM      Profile for Barry Fritz   Email Barry Fritz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Janice!

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Michael McGill
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 - posted November 20, 2011 04:36 PM      Profile for Michael McGill   Email Michael McGill   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi;
I too have a Sankyo dualux 1000 with a poor focus problem. How do you get at the inner end of the lense to clean it. I have removed the little glass window, (heat shield) to find it is a little fuzzy also.
I have ordered a new drive belt after going through my supply of rubber bands but it has not arrived yet..
I would appreciate a bit of help with this projector.
Thanks,
Michael McGill
Seagrave, Ontario, Canada

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Janice Glesser
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 - posted November 20, 2011 05:24 PM      Profile for Janice Glesser     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Michael, you might want to start a new topic on your specific projector problems. However, to remove the lens just pull out on the focus knob and slide the lens out. You can then clean both ends.

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Michael McGill
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Wow, how embarassingly simple was that............
I guess that's what happens when you don't have an instruction manual.

I have ordered a telecine transfer system from e-bay. I was very impressed with your transfer setup.
I may be back to you for some tips once I get mine set up.

Many thanks,
M.

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Cory Temple
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Hello Folks,
I'm new to this forum and hobby/transfer business I've set-up. I tried the above glass removal on my Sankyo 2000H and now I have no picture at all, just a very dim blur?! Not sure what is wrong but the lamp is still bright as ever but a dim blur on my films and ones that I had used before I did this, I'm definitely missing something!? Any help would be appreciated.

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Pasquale DAlessio
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 - posted September 20, 2013 10:15 PM      Profile for Pasquale DAlessio     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Cory

WELCOME TO THE FORUM!!!!

Did you put the lens back together correctly?

PatD

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Cory Temple
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 - posted September 21, 2013 09:39 AM      Profile for Cory Temple   Email Cory Temple   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
There is only one way to put it on so I don't believe it's that

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Cory Temple
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Got it! The lens wasn't seated in the focus slot so when I was thinking I was focusing I really wasn't! DUH!!

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Janice Glesser
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 - posted September 21, 2013 08:31 PM      Profile for Janice Glesser     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Glad you got it working Cory.

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Brad Parmeter
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 - posted December 19, 2013 03:19 PM      Profile for Brad Parmeter   Email Brad Parmeter   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sorry to bring this topic back from the dead but I wanted to say thanks!! I registered just to do it! I'm finally getting around to converting my old 8mm films to digital. This brightened up my image big time! I actually just removed the small glass piece and replaced the metal bracket. One note maybe not mentioned is that any hiccup in feed mechanism or if you press the still button will now melt the film. Had one reel stall at a splice and the film started to melt immediately. No unattended transfers! lol

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Janice Glesser
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 - posted December 19, 2013 04:24 PM      Profile for Janice Glesser     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Brad for adding to this thread. Yes...by removing the glass there is the potential to burn the film...that's why the glass was put there in the first place. It hasn't been an issue for me...since I never use the still feature. However...it's good that you point this out as a heads-up alert [Smile]

Welcome to the Forum!

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Phil Mitchell
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 - posted February 06, 2014 11:02 PM      Profile for Phil Mitchell   Email Phil Mitchell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi, I just came across this topic, my Sankyo 600 has exactlty except maybe smaller version of that glass and the 600 as far as I can see from Manual doesn't have any still capture option.

it is casuing a well two black bars to come down screen, I had not noticed it before now til I tried a 75W bulb to see if I could lessin the strobing effect I am getting during capture.

Posted about this in another thread and one chap there said he thought it was a heat sink thing, although bulbs may not be right type either, although who knows about that, anyway if My projector has not way to do still images, is there any risk to my film if I take my glass out as well? I can test it can't I with film I am not interested in keeping. Have a few reels of film I don't plan to capture.

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Barry Fritz
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 - posted February 08, 2014 07:28 PM      Profile for Barry Fritz   Email Barry Fritz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You may burn the film if you have a variable speed control and you run the projector very, very slowly. Otherwise, no problem.

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Maurice Leakey
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The Sankyo 600 only has the two speeds of 24fps and 18fps.

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Jenny Gilchrist
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 - posted July 16, 2015 07:42 PM      Profile for Jenny Gilchrist   Email Jenny Gilchrist   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have a question about the heat shield glass - the Sankyo 1000H I have (bought from Frank - it's a gorgeous projector) has had the heat shield glass removed. It was probably dirty or broken.
However, I have melted a few spots in my film which is really awful, this is due to my father having spliced them together and occasionally a splice jams, not often, but sometimes. I also can't use the still feature at all or I'm worried it will melt.
Can you get replacement heat glass? I've looked but can't see it.

I also have a question about the telecine setup Janice has as pictured earlier in this thread. (I have the same telecine reflectors, and the same projector.) However, though I won't go into detail here, I get a ghosting image when I project through the telecine. This ghosting is only on one side of the figure or item, not a halo all the way around. The projection goes onto the glass and out through the 'screen', it's the screen that has the ghosting (almost a double) image. Easier to see on brighter figures like a white t shirt or skin against dark background, and always a ghosting to the right of the figure. Any ideas? First I thought it was 'line up' of the mirror/screen or projector, but definitely not, no matter where I move it (and it's supposed to be perfectly aligned on the marked 'mat') the ghosting is still there.

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Janice Glesser
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 - posted July 17, 2015 12:12 AM      Profile for Janice Glesser     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Jenny...in regards to replacing the heat shield glass you might want to contact Frank to see if he has one in his spare parts. Otherwise you might just want to cut a piece of glass to fit.

I suggest you open a new topic to get replies to your telecine question.

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Ty Reynolds
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 - posted November 18, 2015 11:01 PM      Profile for Ty Reynolds   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Jenny - I bought the same box and had the same result. According to the instruction manual, "A ghost-like image may sometimes occur. The ghost-like image may be reduced by making frequency adjustments to your camera..." Frequency adjustments?

What the manual says is nonsense. The ghosting is caused by the manufacturer installing the incorrect mirror. Instead of using a proper first-surface mirror, which reflects the image only from the front, this unit has a conventional mirror. The image passes through the glass, and is reflected by the coating on the back surface. With the mirror at a 45 degree angle, this means that not only is the image reflected by the back surface, but there is also a faint image reflected by the front surface. This is your ghost.

It surprises me that the manufacturer of an optical device does not know this basic fact. But what is really annoying is that they try to bamboozle with b.s. and blame the operator's other equipment.

If you do a google search for first-surface or front-surface mirror, you'll find more articulate explanations of how they work and why they're used.

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Narendra Singh
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There is a lot to learn in this thread. Thanks to Janice and all. Also to Ty Reynolds for his informative post on the formation of 'Ghost Image'.

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Brian Fretwell
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Just to add there was once a halogen replacement for this 8v 50w A1/17 (CRX). It was the A1/263 a small non diathermic reflector and halogen on the same lamp base, made by Thorn lighting in the UK and patented. I expect no-one else wanted to pay them to make copies so it died out.

I have one so will try to get a picture up.

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Steve Flora
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Janice, et al., just found this thread .... and very helpful it is indeed! (After replacing the belt, getting the LED light workaround .... then I happened to have hair, dust, etc. problems). At least using that LED headlamp solution (mentioned on the 1000 dualux lamp replacement thread) removing the protective glass parts mentioned here does not endanger the film at all.
Regards, Steve.
Thanks yet again. Steve.

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Steve Hartwell
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Just followed the instructions to remove the heatsink - so simple - THANKS a bunch

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