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Topic: New Films can be purchased cheaper than some used!
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Adrian Winchester
Film God
Posts: 2941
From: Croydon, London, UK
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted July 03, 2013 08:32 PM
Ernie - I don't want to dampen your enthusiasm, but getting enough confirmed orders to make any new release - particularly features - is an enormous challenge, considering the limited market and the cost of producing a negative. It keeps coming up now and again here. A forum member, a year or two ago, was very keen to become a new distributor and make something happen - if only shorts/trailers - so he posted here several times, did considerable research, and then disappeared! Several years ago, enthusiasm expressed here for a feature release of 'Terminator 3' even resulted in Derann taking deposits but that failed too.
Phil Sheard of CHC often says that people never tell him what they want - and if I tell him what I want, he says no one else has asked for it - so at the very least a bit of organisation here could result in him and Steve O being given the names of several collectors who have said they would definitely buy a particular release.
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Julian Baquero
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 165
From: Bogota, Colombia
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 06, 2013 10:53 PM
Adrian I am on Ernie's side. I don't know why, but must of the websites of business related to S8, 16mm and 8mm are really bad. I don't know how Phil Shepard from CHC make his marketing analysis but I can tell you his website sucks. It doesn't have any kind of contact or request form. Links are broken, no search engine, even getting a list of titles via email is a pain, etc. Many S8 vendors aren't even members of forums like this, other won't sell outside there country of origin, as someone said before in this forum "sometimes it seems as if they weren't interested in selling at all".
I think this forum and a couple others, are the right places to do the polls to find out what are film collectors interested in. Some might find Terminator 3 or Titanic great, IMHO they are really crappy movies, but I don't think finding 20+ customers in the forums might be that difficult. Can some say exactly how many are needed to make a profit out of printing a new film?
I suggest moderators open a poll thread to help with this research. I can imagine not all films are readily available to make S8 copies, so another option might be that the copies that do the printing do a poll listing the titles that could eventually be printed in S8. I could list 100 features I would love to own, but it is useless to do it in this forum thread, because it will eventually fade into oblivion.
You can count me on: Blade Runner, Sigin' in the Rain, Star Wars (1977 original), 2001, Pulp Fiction, Raider of the Lost Ark, Back to the Future, Snatch, The Godfather, Sweet Smell of Success, Godfellas the list goes on and on and on.
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Julian Baquero
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 165
From: Bogota, Colombia
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 07, 2013 07:26 PM
Places to look for possible titles for the POLL.
IMDB to 250 films ( http://www.imdb.com/chart/top ), this is an all taste list, it covers commercial cinema, art house, "foreign films", etc, so nothing could go wrong, even Star Wars is top ranked!
My favorite lists are those made every 10 years by the British Film Institute Sight and Sound magazine, take in account there are 2 different lists, favorite films selected by top film directors (which I prefer) and the top film critics list (as expected somewhat more complex selection). It's very interesting to see how the list has change over the decades. Vertigo is now consider the first ranked in the critics poll, I think the movie is OK, but not Hitchcock's best and I would never consider it the number one film in cinema history, but such is life and polls. IMDB top 250 Sight and Sound critics poll Sight and Sound directors poll IMDB top
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Hugh Thompson Scott
Film God
Posts: 3063
From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 09, 2013 08:24 PM
Ernie, don't get me wrong, there are folks on here, that LOVE the
"Star Wars"(OSI) sorry, that name keeps popping up, "Indiana
Jones" epics, I would LOVE to see a print of "The Big Silence"
or "The Wicker Man" on S/8, sadly it seems there are a handful
of titles that quite frankly are not on my 100th list.Indeed, I was
of the belief that any film was up for grabs, but the same old line up is trotted out.Akshay is "on the ball" when he says the same
films are available. Surely, there are collectors out there that require something more than Hollywood pap.
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Hugh Thompson Scott
Film God
Posts: 3063
From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 09, 2013 09:03 PM
Say's it all Pete, why not just buy the film you want on 16mm.
The price of s/8 new is now self destructive, who wants to pay outlandish prices for a self depricating piece of film. Sorry, not this
horse, i would rather buy the dvd and project it for a lot cheaper.
Film now has run it's course, as a medium for new prints, as I said in an earlier thread, the secondhand market will flourish, but new releases will eventually die off.
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