8mm Forum


Post New Topic  Post A Reply
my profile | my password | register | search | faq | register | forum home
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» 8mm Forum   » 8mm Forum   » Sound Striping Service?

 - UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!    
Author Topic: Sound Striping Service?
Brian Hendel
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 897
From: New York, New York
Registered: Jun 2003


 - posted March 25, 2011 11:55 PM      Profile for Brian Hendel   Email Brian Hendel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Does anyone know of a place/person who adds sound striping onto silent prints for a charge? I am thinking of adding sound to a few of my old silent digests...

 |  IP: Logged

Winbert Hutahaean
Film God

Posts: 5420
From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003


 - posted March 26, 2011 03:08 AM      Profile for Winbert Hutahaean   Email Winbert Hutahaean   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Brian, this was discussed so often. You should be able to search by putting "striping" as the keywords.

Anyway here are the most related posts:

Striping silent films

Stripping Stripe

Some more info info

quote:
It's EVT Magnetics. Here is price:

The charges to stripe Super 8 film are;
6p per foot main track only 7.5p per foot main and balance stripe
Return postage extra. Payment in U.K by cheque overseas by agreement. Regret do not accept credit cards.

at least Christian has calculated that:

quote:
50' = £4
200' = £12
400' = £24
600' = £36
1200' = £72

cheers,

--------------------
Winbert

 |  IP: Logged

Brian Hendel
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 897
From: New York, New York
Registered: Jun 2003


 - posted March 26, 2011 10:07 AM      Profile for Brian Hendel   Email Brian Hendel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I was hoping someone had a striping service on this side of the pond - so the films didn't have to go all the way to the UK.

 |  IP: Logged

Osi Osgood
Film God

Posts: 10040
From: #399R K.O.A. Mountian Home, ID. 83647
Registered: Jul 2005


 - posted March 26, 2011 10:21 AM      Profile for Osi Osgood   Author's Homepage   Email Osi Osgood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have one 200ft cartoon I'd like to get striped as well Brian ...

So I add to the refrain ...

Does anybody in the US have one of those striping machines?

--------------------
"All these moments will be lost in time, just like ... tears, in the rain. "

 |  IP: Logged

Steve Klare
Film Guy

Posts: 6849
From: Long Island, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003


 - posted March 26, 2011 10:32 AM      Profile for Steve Klare   Email Steve Klare   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm sure there are a lot of striping machines around, and a few people that can operate them. The thing is that striping is kind of an art and there are no second chances if it goes wrong. An old friend of mine actually refused to stripe my films because he said he didn't want to risk messing them up.

For the sake of a couple more dollars and a few more weeks (days?) of shipping time , it's better to send it to EVT and get it done right.

To the best of my knowledge, the last striping service in the USA went out of business about 5 years ago. He was more expensive than EVT, and didn't have the experience Nick has.

Kinda Sad: I heard years ago when you sent your silent cartridges to Kodak for processing, for a little more money they'd stripe them too!

--------------------
All I ask is a wide screen and a projector to light her by...

 |  IP: Logged

Wayne Tuell
Master Film Handler

Posts: 488
From: Minden, NV
Registered: Jul 2009


 - posted March 27, 2011 12:30 AM      Profile for Wayne Tuell   Author's Homepage   Email Wayne Tuell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
There is a machine on fleabay right now reasonably cheap.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Weberling-Duo-Sound-DS-240-Striping-Machine-Super-8-/250791791401?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a645b0b29

--------------------
www.16mmDrive-InFilms.com

 |  IP: Logged

Osi Osgood
Film God

Posts: 10040
From: #399R K.O.A. Mountian Home, ID. 83647
Registered: Jul 2005


 - posted March 27, 2011 09:12 AM      Profile for Osi Osgood   Author's Homepage   Email Osi Osgood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The other question would have to be, even owning one of these striping machines, coming up with the actual stripe could be a problem as well. Sometimes these are sold with 50ft or 200ft worth of stripe, and other times without, and that stripe, (I would think) is rather hard to come by.

--------------------
"All these moments will be lost in time, just like ... tears, in the rain. "

 |  IP: Logged

Winbert Hutahaean
Film God

Posts: 5420
From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003


 - posted March 28, 2011 03:52 PM      Profile for Winbert Hutahaean   Email Winbert Hutahaean   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Brian from your original post you never mentioned that you were looking something in the USA.

But as other has mentioned, no more in the USA so you just need to rely the EVT in the UK.

quote:
There is a machine on fleabay right now reasonably cheap
Buying own stripping machine without the availability of the magnetic stripping tape is just like having a gun without bullets...it is useless.

I don't believe that this kind of stripping tape is still being manufactured. I think EVT has a large stock to enough keep it running the business for years from now. But once it is gone, then it's gone

--------------------
Winbert

 |  IP: Logged

Lee Mannering
Film God

Posts: 3198
From: The Projection Box
Registered: Nov 2006


 - posted March 29, 2011 04:49 AM      Profile for Lee Mannering     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have one of the old Cresta machines somewhere............

erm cant find it.

[ November 03, 2011, 04:31 AM: Message edited by: Lee Mannering ]

 |  IP: Logged

Nathan DeHahn
Film Handler

Posts: 58
From: Racine, WI
Registered: Aug 2010


 - posted March 29, 2011 06:49 AM      Profile for Nathan DeHahn   Email Nathan DeHahn   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I found the website that actually sell super 8 mag. tapes at low price and some glue that sticks the track on any reversal stocks.Here is the link: http://www.wittner-kinotechnik.de/katalog/03_verbr/d_s8mm.php

--------------------
Kodachrome Kid

 |  IP: Logged

Winbert Hutahaean
Film God

Posts: 5420
From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003


 - posted March 29, 2011 11:08 AM      Profile for Winbert Hutahaean   Email Winbert Hutahaean   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Nathan thanks the link.

The question is, will it stick to polyester or acetate base? many reversal film is polyester but commercial film from 1970s is on acetate.

It is a kinda hard to make a strip, sometime after couple screening, the stripe will peel of from the film.

BTW, although that website still sell brand new magnetic stripes, bu they are made by ORWO (was an East Germany company which is obvipously had closed down) and AGFA which wikipedia says

quote:
"In the past, Agfa film and cameras were prominent consumer products. However, in 2004, the consumer imaging division was sold to a company founded via management buyout. AgfaPhoto GmbH, as the new company was called, filed for bankruptcy after just one year.
So the condition is like I said above, "once it is gone, is gone"

--------------------
Winbert

 |  IP: Logged

Nathan DeHahn
Film Handler

Posts: 58
From: Racine, WI
Registered: Aug 2010


 - posted March 29, 2011 06:48 PM      Profile for Nathan DeHahn   Email Nathan DeHahn   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You're welcome. I believe that wittner brought a big stock of mag. tapes from Orwo when it came out of business, I am not sure if i am correct. The Mag. tape should stick on both acetate and polyester.

--------------------
Kodachrome Kid

 |  IP: Logged

Joerg Polzfusz
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 815
From: Berlin, Germany, Europe, Earth, Solar System
Registered: Apr 2006


 - posted March 30, 2011 04:38 AM      Profile for Joerg Polzfusz   Author's Homepage   Email Joerg Polzfusz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
All "home striping devices" only work for acetate-based filmstocks. They will not work for any polyester-based filmstocks.

 |  IP: Logged

Joerg Polzfusz
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 815
From: Berlin, Germany, Europe, Earth, Solar System
Registered: Apr 2006


 - posted March 30, 2011 07:05 AM      Profile for Joerg Polzfusz   Author's Homepage   Email Joerg Polzfusz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
I was hoping someone had a striping service on this side of the pond
IMHO the last company that offers striping on the american continent is this one: http://www.agflaboratorios.com.br/

 |  IP: Logged

Flavio Stabile
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 707
From: Roma, Italia
Registered: Feb 2005


 - posted October 25, 2011 07:11 AM      Profile for Flavio Stabile   Email Flavio Stabile   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi,

just wondering if EVT Magnetics in UK is still offering the striping services for Super 8 movies.

I tried some days ago to contact them by email at this address maltfilm@amserve.com (Nick?) that I found on another post in the forum, but none answered me so far.

Any alternative service possibly in Europe?

Thanks
F.

 |  IP: Logged

Joerg Polzfusz
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 815
From: Berlin, Germany, Europe, Earth, Solar System
Registered: Apr 2006


 - posted October 25, 2011 10:46 AM      Profile for Joerg Polzfusz   Author's Homepage   Email Joerg Polzfusz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
just wondering if EVT Magnetics in UK is still offering the striping services for Super 8 movies.
Good question.

quote:
I tried some days ago to contact them by email at this address maltfilm@amserve.com (Nick?) that I found on another post in the forum, but none answered me so far.
The whole "amserve.com" seems to be gone from the internet. Hence I guess that Nick Maltezos now has got a new (secret) eMail-address.

Alternatives in Germany:
http://www.fipra.de/
http://www.filmbespurung.de/
Chris Filmtechnik GmbH (no internet, only telephone/fax)
http://www.fett-video.de/

Jörg

 |  IP: Logged

Flavio Stabile
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 707
From: Roma, Italia
Registered: Feb 2005


 - posted October 25, 2011 11:50 AM      Profile for Flavio Stabile   Email Flavio Stabile   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Joerg

thanks for the very useful information!

I have just checked the prices on 'fibra' and 'fett-video' web sites and noticed they ask differente price, and this is normal.

Indeed I'm surprised about the cost which is about 0,49-0,65 eur per a double track per meter!
This means tha a 180mt reel costs about 88,2-117 eur!

At the beginnig of this post there is a quotation from EVT where a 600 reel should cost 36 pounds, which considerably lower...

I'm quiet confused and also a bit disappointed... [Frown]

Flavio

 |  IP: Logged

Joerg Polzfusz
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 815
From: Berlin, Germany, Europe, Earth, Solar System
Registered: Apr 2006


 - posted October 26, 2011 05:14 AM      Profile for Joerg Polzfusz   Author's Homepage   Email Joerg Polzfusz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi,

prices per meter for stereo at fipra range from 0,40 EUR (Orwo tape without milling) to 1,10 EUR (Agfa tape incl. milling), at Jäger (Filmbespurung.de) it's 0,30 EUR (Orwo tape without milling), at Fett it's 0,49 EUR (Agfa tape without milling). EvT (if still in business) is using "liquid paste" instead of tapes.

Jörg

 |  IP: Logged

William Mouroukas
Film Handler

Posts: 49
From: Sydney - Australia
Registered: Oct 2011


 - posted November 02, 2011 08:38 PM      Profile for William Mouroukas   Email William Mouroukas   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Can anyone provide an opinion on the 'Liquid Paste' sound stripe system? How good is it performance wise and longevity? Is tape a better system?

 |  IP: Logged

Adrian Winchester
Film God

Posts: 2887
From: Croydon, London, UK
Registered: Aug 2004


 - posted November 02, 2011 09:02 PM      Profile for Adrian Winchester   Email Adrian Winchester   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I've heard that the EVT gentleman has retired, so I suppose that means no more striping services in the UK.

--------------------
Adrian Winchester

 |  IP: Logged

Larry Arpin
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 938
From: Sunland, CA, USA
Registered: Dec 2006


 - posted November 03, 2011 12:38 AM      Profile for Larry Arpin   Author's Homepage   Email Larry Arpin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Did he junk his striping machine also? Or is it available for sale?

 |  IP: Logged

Bill Brandenstein
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1625
From: California
Registered: Aug 2007


 - posted November 03, 2011 07:41 PM      Profile for Bill Brandenstein   Email Bill Brandenstein   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Go Larry! (woot woot)

 |  IP: Logged

Joerg Polzfusz
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 815
From: Berlin, Germany, Europe, Earth, Solar System
Registered: Apr 2006


 - posted November 09, 2011 03:01 AM      Profile for Joerg Polzfusz   Author's Homepage   Email Joerg Polzfusz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
I've heard that the EVT gentleman has retired, so I suppose that means no more striping services in the UK.
There are some rumours that his son now runs EVT... maybe I should simply try the old telephone-number the next days...

 |  IP: Logged



All times are Central  
Post New Topic  Post A Reply Close Topic    Move Topic    Delete Topic    next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:

Visit www.film-tech.com for free equipment manual downloads. Copyright 2003-2019 Film-Tech Cinema Systems LLC

Powered by Infopop Corporation
UBB.classicTM 6.3.1.2