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Topic: 8mm Betty Page
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Jimmy Baker III
Junior
Posts: 2
From: Orange County NY
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 22, 2011 11:43 AM
Hello everyone. I was told this is the place to go to get an idea of what I may have.
Short Version:
My grandfather was in WWII in 45-48 well tale end of it. He was station on a carrier in or outside of Guam. He left to me a tin box containing 8mm films of Pin Ups...the one in particular is a YOUNG Betty Page.. 4 1/2 mins long, cut off..of her in an Indian headdress and topless.. Now, most "Betty Page" enthusiasts say it doesnt exist...must be someone else..then I had a fella (collector) from California offer me a grand.. I was told not to sell it for that..if it was really her (AND IT IS) that the film is worth a lot more. This film would put Betty at 18/19/20 years old.
Anyway, I want to sell it for what it is worth if anything to the right person. I am 33, I have full custody of my 8 yr old lil girl and I am looking at our first home here in NY.. I want to sell 8mm of Betty, and a few other pin ups in this as well... so I can have a nice down payment on my mortgage. Truth!
The film is not oranged or discolored..very good condition
If anyone, ANYONE could please help me..send me in the right direction.. me and my lil one WILL GREATLY appreciate it!
p.s.- Hugh Hefner, and his secretary both contacted me a few years back after I inquired to Hugh about his collecting.. howevr, he does not collect 8MM.. odd, but true.
email me at 1854dream@gmail.com if you ladies or gents could help me out in a desperate time.
Sincerely,
Jimmy Baker!
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Adrian Winchester
Film God
Posts: 2941
From: Croydon, London, UK
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted April 22, 2011 07:23 PM
Whilst Winbert is correct in saying that the value of a 8mm film can easily be overestimated, on the other hand, if you're right that it's a Betty Page film that's so rare that even most fans don't think it exists, then I can imagine that it could genuinely be of great value. Even Betty Page films that I'd imagine were produced in large quantities very rarely seem to be offered for sale, let alone an ultra-rare one. But if the guy from California has the specialised knowledge to consider it authentic, it could possibly be that he has made a fair offer, as it's a far higher sum than rare glamour would normally go for. You could perhaps try to get some advice from an auction house that sells vintage pin up type material. Although you might do well on eBay, film-related memorabilia often sells for what is considered less than its market value there.
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Gerald Santana
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1060
From: Cottage Grove OR
Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 23, 2011 02:08 AM
Hello Folks - I know a little about this film and about it's star and around the time it was made. For starters her name was Bettie, not Betty (as in Boop) and this film was made between 1952 and 1957. Bettie Page began taking pin-up shots after her divorce to a Navy man Billy Neal, later traveling to Haiti and living briefly in San Francisco. In 1950 she took her first shots with Jerry Tibbs (by then, she was already 22) and was around 24 before she started posing for Irving Klaw. Many films were made using 8mm and 16mm formats for adult-underworld voyeurs. These prints continued in circulation until 1958 and Klaw's all-female films (and still photos) never featured any nudity or explicit sexual content.
If your film features nudity and the headdress, chances are that it was shot at William Glanzman’s studio between those times. It is uncertain if Glanzman shot the photos, or rented the studio for the session. The series is the “rail fence” set, which some people nicknamed “the O.K. Corral” shoot. In this pose, Bettie was wearing an Indian (as in Native American) headdress. Is this the scene you might be talking about?
These films are obviously collectors items but not "rare" and after looking at completed listing on ebay for Bettie Page on film turn up essentially nothing. it is an unusual item but depending on the condition, I estimate it to be worth between $50 and $100 -- I would go back to the guy who offered you $1G for this 100" Standard 8mm reel, take the money (if it's real) and don't look back...
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