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Topic: Andec explains delays on new releases
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Andrew Woodcock
Film God
Posts: 7477
From: Manchester Uk
Registered: Aug 2012
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posted April 11, 2015 11:44 PM
IMHO the balance stripe is a very worthy addition to any Super 8mm film on Laminated striped stock, like Kodak, Agfa and Fuji all used to produce.
As we know since the termination of pre striped laminated stock by the big 3, pasted stripe has always been hit and miss to record on, adhere to the film stock as well as giving a far more uneven surface texture from it causing excessive head wear as Paul highlights.
With all this in mind, I don't think a balance stripe on pasted polyester offers much at all for the most part in terms of its recording abilities and is much much harder to bond to on polyester than acetate.
Therefore as Paul says, probably not having a pasted balance stripe on polyester offers greater merits to your projectors magnetic head than actually having one in terms of wear to the magnetic head.
It does of course, still wear the main stripe section of the head just the same, but as this is far wider than the balance side, it takes much longer to do so therefore saving the balance side of the head for your laminated prints is probably the most sensible thing to do nowadays given that magnetic replacement heads are becoming scarce now for a lot of the Stereo and Duo play models.
In the days when Mr Simmonds was striping polyester, some were fine as a recording device on both tracks, some were not. Once Derek sadly passed away, things became even worse unfortunately.
If Andec polyester striped prints are of similar quality, it doesn't surprise me at all, that they have chosen to opt out of even attempting to place the very narrow pasted balance stripe onto their polyester prints nowadays, due to the above mentioned reasons.
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Andrew Woodcock
Film God
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From: Manchester Uk
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posted April 15, 2015 01:43 AM
In answer to Dominique's and Adrian's question, the two prints that spring to mind that I know for certain have vertical movement in the frame as well as relatively poor sound are, Partly Cloudy and the Chubba Chubbs. I am fairly certain (from memory) that both are on acetate, at least one doesn't have a balance stripe so perhaps that is on Polyester.Finally the sound as originally recorded was rather bassy and lacked any high end clarity as well as the recording level on both of my prints is recorded fairly low.
There are one or two others that without going through all my recent shorts and trailers, I cannot be certain which titles they are for sure, that suffer a similar trait also.
Johns observations tie in with mine and he is correct I feel in expecting the original sound track to be of a quality which cannot ordinarily be beaten by home recording methods for the price of the new prints.
It will be interesting to read if anyone else's prints are similar on either of these two titles.
At the end of the day, I will still take the odd disappointment as opposed to no new prints at all, as Jason points out. It would just be nice if quality control was guaranteed on all these small batches of new prints I feel. [ April 15, 2015, 02:58 AM: Message edited by: Andrew Woodcock ]
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