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Anthony Ng
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From: Toronto, ON, Canada
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 - posted June 07, 2017 08:51 AM      Profile for Anthony Ng   Email Anthony Ng   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello [Smile] peeps. Looking for a projector with sound that plays single 8mm and super 8. Any recommendations and also if this compromise is not good for the film? Thanks in advance

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Maurice Leakey
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 - posted June 07, 2017 10:01 AM      Profile for Maurice Leakey   Email Maurice Leakey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Anthony
Eumig made some good dual gauge projectors. You can tell these models as they have a D after the number.
710D
712D
802D
804D
807D
810D
Also
709
822
824
You can read about all these on the Super 8 Database. Click on the projector symbol, and then scroll down to Eumig.
http://www.filmkorn.org/super8data/

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Oliver F. R. Feld
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 - posted June 07, 2017 11:18 AM      Profile for Oliver F. R. Feld     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Single 8 (Fuji) and Super 8 (Kodak) is the same, isn't it?
Don't You mean "Super 8" and "8 mm" (Standard 8)?

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Anthony Ng
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 - posted June 07, 2017 08:07 PM      Profile for Anthony Ng   Email Anthony Ng   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thank you.

And no single 8mm and super 8mm are not the same. Standard 8mm and regular 8mm are the same. I learned the hard way lol.

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Janice Glesser
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 - posted June 07, 2017 11:28 PM      Profile for Janice Glesser     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Anthony according to Wikipedia:

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Although the film is thinner, the other dimensions of Single-8 such as the sprocket holes and sound track, are the same as Super 8. Single-8 can be projected in Super 8 projectors and vice versa.


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Jason Smith
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Anthony as everyone previously mentioned, Single 8 film will play on any Super 8 projector.

How do you plan on using a future projector? Did you shoot Super 8 or single 8 film and do you just want to project it?

If your going to be buying Super 8 features, I would recommend a projector that would accomodate a 1200ft spool.

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Dominique De Bast
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Anthony, as Janice pointed out, you can project any single 8 film in any super 8 projector and vice versa. The only thing you cannot do is to splice single 8 with cement (you need tape).

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Maurice Leakey
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It seems that I miss-read Anthony's request which I thought was asking about a dual gauge projector for which I apologise. Many people do get confused over the designation of films which are 8mm wide.

As I write I have in front of me my Elmo ST-1200HD in its original box which is very clearly printed with the words "Elmo ST-1200HD 2-Track 8mm Sound Projector. At least the Instruction Book knows it's a Super 8 model!

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Anthony Ng
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 - posted June 08, 2017 07:25 AM      Profile for Anthony Ng   Email Anthony Ng   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks for the replies. It appears I got the film designation wrong (newbie). What I mean is I need a regular or standard 8mm
with Super 8 projector. The reel hole on standard 8mm doesn't fit my super 8 projector. [Confused]

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Maurice Leakey
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 - posted June 08, 2017 09:43 AM      Profile for Maurice Leakey   Email Maurice Leakey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The Eumig dual-gauge models have a standard (regular) 8 feed spindle, with the projector comes a sleeve to fit over for use with Super 8 spools.

The take-up spindle is only for Super 8 spools, so these have to be used when taking up a standard (regular) 8 film.

The sprockets are changed, as are the gate assemblies, for each gauge. The single claw is able to work with either.

Last, but not least, is a slide switch to change the position of sound pickup from each gauge

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Janice Glesser
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Then Anthony if you want a single projector that runs both Standard 8 and Super 8 sound films use the list of dual gauge Eumigs provided by Maurice above.

If a projector that runs Super 8 Sound and Standard 8 silent will do... then I can recommend a Kodak MovieDeck265 or 285 or Kodak Supermatic. I have two these projectors and they also come with a pull-out viewing screen. Maximum reel size is 400 ft.

[ June 08, 2017, 12:21 PM: Message edited by: Janice Glesser ]

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Anthony Ng
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Guys thank you soo much!

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