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Jean-Marc Toussaint
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From: France
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted July 15, 2008 12:45 PM
Craig, what kind of equipment are you planning to use?
This is what I would do, but then again, I have the ressources to do it: I would digitize the film in 18fps and run it in a non-linear editing software, interlaced at 25fps. I would then take the soundtrack off the dvd and paste it with the digitized film. The DVD being "faster", I would loop some of the music patterns to fill the voids. ie, if the music changes for a particular scene, I would paste the music change at the beginning of said scene and loop the end of previous music part to fill the gap (with some crossfading). But you might not have access to Soundtrack Pro and Final Cut Pro.
You might also try to do some cutting and pasting of the DVD soundtrack on a simple editing software. You need to "rip" the dvd to your hard drive first.
If you have somewhere a reel-to-reel or stereo cassette tape recorder, you can create your own mix by fading pieces from the left channel to the right channel (and vice-versa)... Say your scene in 18fps is 30 seconds long. Same scene on the dvd will be 22 seconds. Locate (by simple hearing) a cue in the 22 sec music piece where you could crossfade. Record the music on the right channel and finish with fading out. Then rewind a bit and pause. You will want the DVD to be 8 seconds late, record and fade in on the left channel when you know the track on the right channel will soon fade out. Do the same for the rest of the reel and rerecord the stereo signal in mono on your projector, the music pieces will flow without interruption...
No one said it would be easy.
Or you can stop at my studio in Paris later this year... ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Jean-Marc Toussaint
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posted July 17, 2008 08:38 AM
Craig, your software doesn't feel like it can handle the job properly. But sometimes it's fun trying to fool a machine and make softwares do what they're not meant to do. Knowing you a bit and knowing that you love rolling up your sleeves, just give it a try. It might work. Or not.
Ideally, you want to work with sound files in AIFF format, since there's considerable loss of dynamic working directly with mp3s.
First things first. Finish your striping job as this is probably the most delicate part of the whole process.
Then, if your software solution doesn't work, check with Mike in the US (Do I smell Protool? CuBase? Logic?)
Or we can try my method. I just finished retracking an Italian print of a Terence Hill "Trinity" movie using the French DVD which had a lot of cuts (shorter scenes). Fortunately, there was no dialogue missing. A couple of laughters and grunts here and there. The fun thing was to pick up sound ambiances, background music and voices from other parts of the scene, or from other scenes, in order to recreate the missing sound parts on the super 8 print.
I'm currently on vacation, I then have a series of job assignements until september 5, so if you want to check again with me after that date, you're more than welcome.
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