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Vidar Olavesen
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posted December 03, 2012 05:14 PM

What do you prefer for splicing? I tried cement for the first time today, had some problems getting it to stick properly on some movies. Is there a wrong and a right side to apply the cement?

Tapes was easier for me.

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Pasquale DAlessio
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posted December 03, 2012 08:25 PM

I have always used tape.

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Graham Ritchie
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posted December 03, 2012 08:33 PM

I also use tape however cement is fine on Acetate film, but dont try if on the later polyester film stock...it wont work, use tape for that one.

Graham.

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Steve Klare
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posted December 03, 2012 09:10 PM

I use cement if I can, tape if I can't!

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Osi Osgood
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posted December 03, 2012 09:59 PM

Tape works better on this smaller format, where cement appears to work better on the higher guages. Tapes less destructive.

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Matt McBride
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posted December 04, 2012 09:51 AM

I have always used clear tape, since I have long play systems, but I store my prints on cores, so tape works better for me.

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David Ollerearnshaw
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posted December 04, 2012 09:59 AM

Always used tape on both 8mm (Wurker/CIR) & 16mm (CIR).

Wasn't there an ultrasonic splicer once made for polyester stock? At a rather high cost, thinking in the region of £500 and that's 20 years ago.

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Joe Taffis
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posted December 04, 2012 11:17 AM

Ciro roll tape. Never felt the need to use cement. BTW, do cement splices cover the soundtracks?

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Vidar Olavesen
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posted December 04, 2012 01:27 PM

They look hard to find, or am I mistaken (Ciro tape rolls) and they don't cover the perforations, do they? Won't that make a sharp edge that can bend a little?

Cement is now functioning okay for me ... Tested a little today and got the hang of it ... They will lose a frame, half of each end of splice, not sure if you'll hear it, only put on leaders.

Thanks for your inputs

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Pasquale DAlessio
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posted December 04, 2012 01:44 PM

With the Circa Guilitene splicer the tape is cut, punctured, then folded over to make a perfect, strong splice that is barely detectable if at all when the film is run. This is what I use.

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Hugh Thompson Scott
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posted December 04, 2012 04:21 PM

Hi Vidar,there is a chap on the forum selling a Kohlmatic splicer
which if I remember is a motorised cement splicer that splices with a flush join.

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Vidar Olavesen
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posted December 04, 2012 04:28 PM

Maybe it's bought by me? I got a motorized one on eBay a couple of weeks ago. Haven't tried it yet though

Will test if it's better than the Rank 3 way I use for cement now

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Jim Schrader
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From: Savage, MN, USA
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posted December 05, 2012 10:35 AM

I have that same splicer Kohlmatic splicer and use it to do my super 8 prints mostly leaders but sometime in the main print with good results. Do also own the kodak splicer and the ciro as well.

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Vidar Olavesen
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posted December 05, 2012 11:17 AM

I bought two similiar ones, the Rank 3 Way and the Arrow was looking 99% identical. I did test the motorized one, I can't see how you can get it to not lose a frame, though. It was good for leader, but tape would keep one more frame from what I gather.

Thanks for the replies

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