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Moshe Yitzhak
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 211
From: Israel
Registered: Aug 2011

posted June 13, 2013 04:01 PM

hello.

i have a derann zorro title in which half of the film the picture is shaking real bad. i use elmo st180. if i want to stablize it i need to press down the upper thread push button. the green one. otherwise the picture is shaking.
happened only with 2 movies. all other films i put are good and very stable picture.
anyone knows why is it made so? i guess my projector is ok otherwise all films were shaking.

also check the sprockets on the zorro film all ok. very weird. any thoughts on it?

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Janice Glesser
Film Goddess

Posts: 3468
From: Sunnyvale, CA USA
Registered: Sep 2011

posted June 13, 2013 05:23 PM

The film could have shrunk causing the sprocket holes to be out of alignment with the claw.

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Hugh Thompson Scott
Film God

Posts: 3063
From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
Registered: Jan 2012

posted June 13, 2013 05:35 PM

Hi Moshe, that is a good point Janice made, how old is the film?
Otherwise, it might just need a lubricant, could be a "green print"
I hope that the film isn't shrunk.The suggestion I would give if
Janice is correct, would be to immerse it in a gentle film restorer/
cleaner like Filmrenew, there is a chap on this forum who can
give instruction on film restoration and how to make your own
film lube quite cheaply. Anyway.treat the film and report back,
we're waiting.Re-reading your post,I don't think it might be old
stock, Derann did have the odd print that was badly split, it
might be that.Anyway,give it a wipe with lubricant,it just might
cure it.If not, it might need the attention of the "Equaliser",
a piece of gear made by a UK company to cure badly split prints.

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Moshe Yitzhak
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 211
From: Israel
Registered: Aug 2011

posted June 14, 2013 08:22 AM

thanks.
where can i buy this lube?
how can i use it? shoud i ran the film on my prohector reel to reel (not through lens) and in between the reels to lube the film with what cloth/metirial to sprey on the lube and to do a "sandwich" to the film with the cloth with the lube in it? im newbie on cleaning films. never needed to do anything like this..

thanks
moshe

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Richard Fullerton
Film Handler

Posts: 49
From: bromsgrove, worcestershire, UK
Registered: Feb 2011

posted June 14, 2013 12:33 PM

I agree with all points stated above.

However, I can think of another possible problem. Kind of drawing upon points made by Hugh.

I own another Derann print (Sleeping Beauty), and when the previous owner received it, it turned out that the film had been slit incorrectly (or roughly), and shifted around a lot when playing. It was equilised, and now the problem is barely noticable.

However, I wouldn't rush into this without being first sure that that is the problem.

I've had prints that were a bit dry and jumped about before, but they were fixed with a bit of lubricant, which I found on ebay.

Richard.

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