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Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on March 25, 2015, 12:29 PM:

Just one month away, the 11th CineSea show will take place in Wildwood, New Jersey.

CineSea is all about film and film equipment. It's an intimate gathering of kindred spirits who talk about, watch, buy, sell, and trade films.
For those who haven't attended, Claus Harding's pictures from CineSea X will give you a very good idea what we're about. There will be be tables full of film & equipment in gauges from 8mm to 35mm. It's the perfect event for sellers since tables are only $20 and every person in the room is a collector (or a very tolerant friend or family member). It's also the perfect event for buyers since the prices are low and you can screen any film that you'd like to purchase!

The show starts on Saturday April 25th at 10 AM. I've lost count of the number of projectors that are running simultaneously. Everywhere you turn a print is being shown. In the early evening we all head out for a group dinner (always a highlight), then the screening starts and keeps on going and going. Last time we wrapped up at 1 AM.

Now's a good time to thank John Black and Shorty Caruso, who started CineSea with the idea that the film collector deserves an affordable show to pick up films, promote camaraderie and to keep this hobby going!

If possible, please try to arrive on Friday. Projectors will be set up in the evening and we'll have an informal screening.

Saturday April 25th, 2015

The Ocean Holiday Resort
6501 Ocean Avenue
Wildwood Crest, NJ 08260
609-729-2900 (mention "Film Show" to receive special rate of $65.00 per room)
Reserve early to get Oceanfront rooms with private balconies!

Admission: $5.00, free to those who are staying at the Ocean Holiday.
Hours: 10 AM – 5:30 PM, dinner break, continuous screenings late into the night.

Dealers:
6 foot dealer tables are available for $20. You can rent as many as you like. The cost of a table is so low that if you've got any films you'd like to part with, get a table and bring them to the show.

Lou Franchetti will be there with stacks of 8mm and 16mm. To reserve a table you can email/PM me or Lou.

Directions:
From North; Garden State Parkway to Exit 4, follow Rio Grande Ave to end. Right on Ocean Ave. Follow to Ocean Holiday on left 6501 Ocean Ave. From West and South;Rt 76 (east) or Rt 95 (north) to Walt Whitman Bridge. Follow Rt. 42 to Atlantic City Expressway. Take Exit 7 (Garden St Parkway South) Follow same as north.

More about past shows:
CineSea 9, CineSea 9 (2). There's also the CineSea 6 Video, and Claus' CineSea 5 trailer.

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on March 25, 2015, 01:08 PM:

CineSea is about as much fun as you can have without winding up in jail!

It's a whole weekend of film, projectors and most importantly film people and film conversation. There's this atmosphere of enthusiasm about it that you never feel when you're back home as the neighborhood's lone-wolf film-guy.

If you ever wonder (-along with so many others), "Why do I enjoy collecting films so much?", come to Wildwood: you'll understand better than ever.

I just reserved my room: the lady at the front desk remembered me too!

-guess that makes it a tradition!

Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on March 26, 2015, 09:14 AM:

Yeah, me too - I hope our overseas friends will come over - Shorty

Posted by John Capazzo (Member # 157) on March 26, 2015, 09:39 AM:

I wish so, too. Paul from Iceland can't make it as we speak regularly. He also wants everyone to know he just acquired Star Wars feature and wants to show it off--in October.

Posted by Jack Cleveland (Member # 4485) on March 26, 2015, 08:50 PM:

Count me in! I will be calling early next week to make my reservations!

Had a ball in October!

Posted by Guy Taylor, Jr. (Member # 786) on March 27, 2015, 06:39 PM:

Good luck my friends. I will see y'all at the Cinesea in April of next year. Columbus, Ohio is on my agenda next. All my money for 2015 will have been spent.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on March 27, 2015, 07:21 PM:

I reckon Paul from Iceland has the best chance of keeping that low fade print of the recently acquired Star Wars feature low fade for longer than most! No fridge required!! Lol.

Posted by Louis Franchetti (Member # 2035) on March 30, 2015, 03:53 AM:

hey Steve I just talked to uries restaurant and they're open now on weekends so that should not be a problem going there

Posted by Roger Faires (Member # 4147) on March 30, 2015, 07:41 AM:

There wouldn't happen to be a West Coast version of this at some time, would there?

Roger
from Portland . . Oregon, that is.

Posted by Gary Crawford (Member # 67) on March 30, 2015, 08:09 AM:

Cinesea is the best two weekends of the year, followed closely by Cinevent in Columbus. Four F's at Cinesea -Friends,Food, Films and Fun.

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on March 30, 2015, 08:41 AM:

Lou,

Urie's looks good: we will be well fed! (Maybe we need to schedule some jogging on the boardwalk...)

I liked the Starlite Diner too. That'll look great in Claus'es photo essay!

Roger,

What makes CineSea work is we have the people and we have the place. What it also took is for somebody to find the place, rally the people and set a date.

-Just that simple: It's something we talked about (hypothetically) for years until John Black and Shorty stuck a pin in the map and said: "OK: here it is!"

I have to give them a lot of credit for their optimism: if it was me I'd never have started out as twice a year, ("Let's do it once: see if it flies...") but 5 years later I could never imagine it being any other way!

Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on March 30, 2015, 08:43 AM:

Lest we forget, our good friend and photo-bug Claus, without him we wouldn't know we were there - Danke

Posted by Roger Faires (Member # 4147) on April 03, 2015, 12:27 PM:

So Steve,

I expect that y'all will bring this to Portland since I am here, ya?

Oh well, maybe I'll bite the leather and get on a plane even though I hate flying.

If I don't, have a great time at Cinesea!

---
Rog

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on April 03, 2015, 01:00 PM:

No Roger,

What I am saying is if you can round up enough Western US collectors willing to converge on some central place (Granted: a lot harder out West...), you can make your own!

CineSea started out with nothing more than a post on this Forum to see if anybody at all would join in:

A Film Convention in Wildwood, NJ, any Interest?

By the way: this doesn't have to be several dozen people at a hotel. We have much smaller gatherings (maybe four or five) at someone's home and they're nice too.

If you do make your way to Wildwood, I'm betting you'll be glad you did!

[ April 03, 2015, 02:09 PM: Message edited by: Steve Klare ]

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on April 06, 2015, 08:37 PM:

How are the films selected for the Saturday evening film show? Do collectors just bring along films they think might be of interest to show and put them on at random, or is there an agreed upon list of films for the Saturday evenong show, selected from the pool of films on hand?

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on April 06, 2015, 09:24 PM:

It's kind of "dueling gauges":

We have one 16mm machine and Doug Meltzer's GS Xenon operating alternately. People bring reels they think the crowd will enjoy and they go up at both projectionists' discretion in delightfully random order.

I brought a very nice S8 Buccaneer Bunny a couple of years ago and it got bumped because the same film showed up in 16mm a couple of reels ahead of it! (-actually a wasted opportunity for side by side comparison...)

It can be all sorts of different stuff. Last time we had a 16mm film released by the Wildwood Chamber of Commerce in the 1950s to promote tourism. I brought my print of Lee Mannering's "Cinema in Miniature" once, and I let him know he would be on screen that night too. Steve Osborne often sends a sample reel and I usually find something I want to buy from it. Gary Crawford once brought a 16mm reel from a feature that built a lot of tension without much dialog, and he narrated for us while it was on screen.

Generally the upper limit is a 20 minute reel, just to keep the show moving along. The mix often includes a lot of animation, much of it nice vintage stuff too.

It's actually a treat for me to be a donor to this: I see my films shown on a much larger screen, with a much brighter lamp and a much sharper lens than at home. I appreciate them more for this.

Generally sometime after midnight you have about 3 or 5 stragglers standing by the machines for last call, and then we make our weary ways upstairs and call it a night!

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on April 07, 2015, 04:06 AM:

Sounds like a fantastic gig Steve. Please do a Vidar and send us all plenty of photographs! [Smile]

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on April 07, 2015, 08:31 AM:

So, you never show a full feature Steve?

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on April 07, 2015, 08:31 AM:

Claus Harding's photo essay is a post-weekend tradition:

CineSea X Pictures

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on April 07, 2015, 08:39 AM:

Great stuff Steve and indeed Claus! [Smile]

Paul has a very good point... surely one superb showcase feature could make the day as dusk sets on the day, don't you think Steve?

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on April 07, 2015, 08:46 AM:

The plan is doing longer films and possibly a feature Friday night this time around. We've never had a Friday night screening before. We'll give it a shot and see what develops.

-the Saturday night bring and screen has to stay: it's a lot of fun and it encourages people to get involved.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on April 07, 2015, 09:22 AM:

I agree entirely Steve, but a Friday Night Feature screening will surely just put the Top Hat on it all I am guessing. [Smile]

Posted by Gary Crawford (Member # 67) on April 07, 2015, 02:52 PM:

The good thing about bringing shorts and assorted things to screen is that if you don't like one thing, just hang on for a few minutes and there will be something else. Also it exposes us to a variety of films we may never have seen or heard of .
The problem with one long feature is just the opposite. If you don't like that film, that genre...whatever, you are stuck for a long time. And who is the "chooser" of that feature?

Not so sure I like the idea, but who knows...it's the beach..it's films , it's friends , it's food ...that's the important thing.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on April 07, 2015, 03:19 PM:

Gary it's your gig not mine, whatever formula suits you guys best is surely the one that should stick.

Perhaps in this case, upon reflection, it is very much a case of "Don't fix what's not already broken!" [Smile]

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on April 07, 2015, 03:44 PM:

You're right, Gary.

If it's going to be a feature it will have to be very much a general interest kind of film.

It's kind of like when the History Channel chooses one of their shows and runs episodes all day, except in that case even if you like the show you still get sick of it!

Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on April 07, 2015, 04:22 PM:

I remember years ago some of us used to get together every second Sunday night at a different house and put films on. Features are dodgy to say the least, as everyone tastes are different. The best evening film shows, were always a mix of shorts joined on larger reels "something for everyone".

However if you put a feature on, do make sure it has lots of trains in it for Steve [Wink]

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on April 07, 2015, 06:13 PM:

Interesting, Graham!

-You've given me an idea.

I'm picking out some films for Saturday night.

What if the first (ever) train film on screen at CineSea was "A Train for Christmas"?

Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on April 07, 2015, 06:54 PM:

Sounds good [Smile]

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on April 07, 2015, 07:33 PM:

I need to explain this a little:

"A Train For Christmas" is a New Zealand Film Unit film about a tourist train that used to run every year between Christmas and Easter.

It is easily the best portrayal of a steam locomotive I have ever seen on film: any better and it would become hard to breathe the air in the room pretty fast.

Something about showing that on a screen ten feet high with a couple of healthy speakers just makes sense.

Posted by Guy Taylor, Jr. (Member # 786) on April 08, 2015, 09:44 AM:

I won't be there this year but will try to make it next year. I am all in favor of a Friday night feature screening.

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on April 08, 2015, 08:26 PM:

I know I'll be missing a great time in not going to Cinesea, but I know you guys will come back with some great pics and stories. So please think of us that can't be there and enjoy this wonderful opportunity to mingle with your fellow hobbiest.

Have Fun! [Cool]

Posted by Jack Cleveland (Member # 4485) on April 08, 2015, 09:26 PM:

I haven't been successful getting a hold of the hotel to make a reservation. I left a message last Saturday, and no call back. I will try again in the next few days.

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on April 08, 2015, 10:24 PM:

Hi Jack,

Recently I've called on the 800 reservation number three times roughly mid-day during the week: I got through twice and a busy signal once.

I don't know how doable this is for a teacher, but it seems a good time to find them there.

Posted by Jack Cleveland (Member # 4485) on April 09, 2015, 04:55 AM:

I have a terrible schedule this semester. Free from 8-9:30, at the very beginning of the day, then work non-stop until 5:00, except for a half hour lunch break. I scarf down lunch and keep going. I will try to carve out 15 mins somewhere to get a hold of them.

Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on April 09, 2015, 08:17 AM:

We'll have to think about what the Friday Night Feature will be......

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on April 09, 2015, 09:24 AM:

Well Jack,

The opening phone call is mostly a formality (especially this far off-season): for example "Is the hotel open at all?"...(We know that!....now...)

It's the letter with the deposit that gets the job done.

Worse comes to worse I'm sure if you send them a letter with:

Name
Address/Phone number
Number of guests
Nights of Stay
Type of room you want (see "Rooms" in website)
One night payment (see "Rates" in website)

-you'll do just as well.

Ocean Holiday

(Mention "CineSea": it's just good politics for us with the hotel.)

Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on April 09, 2015, 09:50 AM:

Doug, since it is a gathering of people headed to a destination of fun and adventure, (and these would be cut-downs, more or less), how about the 800' MAD WORLD - 2nd option, Frankenheimer's THE TRAIN - Naturally, I'd like to see a short thrown in for good measure - Which reminds me...

Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on April 09, 2015, 01:44 PM:

I opened a separate topic for the sole purpose of picking the feature for Friday night. Take a look!

Doug

Posted by Guy Taylor, Jr. (Member # 786) on April 11, 2015, 03:43 PM:

I am afraid there will not be any Lone Star Beer there this year but, perhaps, maybe next year.

I still think there should be a Friday Night Feature screening.

Posted by Jack Cleveland (Member # 4485) on April 12, 2015, 06:05 AM:

I finally got someone Friday afternoon at the hotel. All is well, and I will see everyone there the evening of the 24th.

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