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Topic: Value of Laurel and Hardy Films
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Joe Caruso
Film God
Posts: 4105
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted June 16, 2015 03:37 PM
The L&H films aren't always in-demand, per se - Point is, fluctuates as does most markets - The seldom-seen titles; UNACCUSTOMED AS WE ARE, BATTLE OF THE CENTURY (Partially restored), and the Vitaphone Scored-Silents, these always command a premium - Back when, I was getting the silents for $10-$20 on average, and occasionally the talkies for near-same or to $25 - They are rare, with the boxes, and darn-near mint (my own designation) - Shorty
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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted June 18, 2015 02:15 PM
Shorty is quite correct. Due to ebay, (with all of it's good and bad points), the super 8 market has been absolutely FLOODED with laurel and hardy's, Chaplin's ect. and brought down the prices, which is good and bad.
Good in the sense that I was recently able to buy a super 8 sound 600ft print of "The Music Box" for 14.95 and it's an excellent print, and bad for those that have great Blackhawk collections, but are getting almost pennies on the dollar for they're investment of years gone by.
-------------------- "All these moments will be lost in time, just like ... tears, in the rain. "
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Joe Caruso
Film God
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From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted June 19, 2015 07:27 AM
Films, like comic books, gum cards, certain books, LPs and related in-box toys, model kits, are all investments - There is a market (book) on almost all of it, except motion picture film - I can think of 3 reasons, but won't go into all of that right now (come down to Wildwood and we'll talk it over) - Importantly, ALL films, in ANY gauge are now rare - With some exceptions, what we have is what we got - Common titles, such as TWO TARS, BIG USINESS, BUSY BODIES, always round-out to the $20 range, more or less - Preferred ones, like UNACCUSTOMED and BLOTTO, score a premium - Like stock, what is popular, naturally goes higher - Again, depends on the colletor/dealer, whcih is my strongest reason for "live" shows, once you are one-on-one with someone, holding the item, talking and all, a satisfactory conclusion can only arrive - Nothing against EBAY, I've picked up many novelties there - But I digress, You get what you pay for, and no matter how far technology takes us, collectors will always beat a path to your door if you have what they want - Film is a nice investment, for yourself and others, think on that - Shorty
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Timothy Ramzyk
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 220
From: Milwaukee,WI,USA
Registered: Nov 2006
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posted June 27, 2015 01:39 AM
quote: Similar pattern with the introduction of VHS, as many recall, collectors dumped their film in favor of the tape, much to their later regret - No matter how far technology takes us, there will always be the want for where it started; motion picture film - Shorty
I never went for VHS, I stayed with the film. Then I bought laserdisc and films side by side. However, I have to admit, tho I still have a great fondness for film and always will, the "golden age" of movie collecting is on Blu-ray right now for me.
It's given me the never dreamed of chance to see 35mm theatrical quality on my living-room projection screen, all in its proper aspect ratio for roughly $18 a feature. People have no idea how spoiled they are. Collecting film is what still keeps me in awe of what we have at our disposal right now.
I suppose the truth is that owning appreciable copies of films from the past has somewhat lost it's novelty to all but the staunch cinefile.
By the way that 9.5 of METROPOLIS looks very nifty, but £3000 ?! Surely they jest?
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Timothy Ramzyk
Expert Film Handler
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From: Milwaukee,WI,USA
Registered: Nov 2006
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posted June 27, 2015 09:02 AM
quote: Terry, I think he's a 'Chancer',in hope that there may be some fool with more money and nothing to spend it on...I don't think he sales any of the films, the list always seems the same...I think if I were to pay his prices, My other half would impale me...
That's such a fanciful notion, but I know every venue of collecting has these guys. I just wonder if they actually sell anything. After all, I doubt there are many novice 9.5 collectors. If they know enough to own the format, they know enough not to pay close to five grand for a well heeled abridgment of METROPOLIS.
I must admit, as far as home prints go, that one looks a hell of a lot better than my Griggs Moviedrome Super 8 did. With the burned-in subtitles, it can't be first generation, but even from those blow-ups, it looks tight.
How long does a 300ft reel of 9.5 run?
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