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Topic: The Fox and the hound Disney L.P.P.
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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted December 12, 2018 11:57 AM
Jason ...
I had that same print, and i noticed that in those early in the film shots (Big Mama owl discovering the little baby fox), that, where the actual print is slightly over-bright, (with skies that are almost white) the screenshots show decent blues. that is not how the actual image from the film is. I'm sure that the person who buys the film will be able to verify this (the person who bought the UK print, that is).
Now, if there was an additional Uk film seller that released this on super 8 (besides Derann and that Uk film seller) and this print that sold in the Uk was actually from an additional seller, that i will retract my statement ...
However, i only know of three printings of this title total ...
There was Derann
There was the addtional UK seller (from hat i have heard from a number of other super 8 collector in the Uk, it was perry's films, way back in the day) ...
... and there was an Italian printing ...
but the seller said in they're auction that this was a printing of the title from a seller in the UK, and it's not Derann, SOOO, unless there was another super 8 seller that did printings in the UK of this title besides Derann and Perry's (?), then it IS the same rpint runs as my print ...
... and, if so, I can personally confirm that the image of the film does NOT look like that. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Keith Ashfield
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 997
From: U.K.
Registered: Dec 2006
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posted December 13, 2018 07:58 AM
I have not posted here for some considerable time but always "monitor" the forum. I have to echo the sentiments of others on this forum with regards to Kevin.
He is a "Prince amongst men", a genuine gentleman and a person that I have bought many superb films from, all of which have been described upon sale, with impecable detail and every one worth the asking price
Kevin would not use a "dishonest" description or "doctored" screenshots on anything that he sells - with his reputation, just his name alone, will ensure a "trouble-free" purcahse.
Kevin, I'm sorry to hear you have been "under the weather" but, sincerely, I hope you are well on the way to recovery.
[ December 13, 2018, 10:38 AM: Message edited by: Keith Ashfield ]
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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted December 13, 2018 11:17 AM
I still stand by my assessment. As Klark also asserts, I have the same print and having screened it many times before having sold my copy, the print IS a good deal brighter in image (perhaps do to it being, after all a dupe and not an original negative from Derann) than is shown in the screenshots. Also, the print has more grain as well, but that I must say, may not show up as much in screenshots.
Oh, Jason, I never answered you're actual post. I rarely take screenshots as, my screenshots NEVER look as good as the print. I have a fairly old school camera and it makes EVERYTHING (even with that "white balance") look either slightly reddish or very red, even with L.P.P. prints.
I had actually thought of taking screenshots from Klarks auction and putting it on mine, being from same super 8 print maker, but seeing the screenshots, i chose not to, as I trongly felt it didn't represent the print, honestly.
Now, whoever bought that print, (and hopefully, they are a member of this forum), if you can take screenshots of the film, projected, and put up the screenshots from the actual auction, (as the buyer would have that auction still in they're ebay), alongside you're projected screenshots, and the print is actually as sold, then I will happily and humbly apologize and state that I am wrong. I certainly can't be more fair than that.
However, above all else, sorry to hear that you are ailing, Kevin, get better soon.
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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted December 14, 2018 11:22 AM
I thought of something that might have caused a difference between my print and Kev's print ...
Being that "The Fox and The Hound" was originally released on 400ft reel, (at least, I'm pretty sure of that), there IS a possibility that perhaps an occasional reel of the film might go thru the labs and have different results for a specific reel (being printed to lightly) and that might cause a difference between reel one of my print and reel one of Kev's print. Just a thought.
There was a stark difference between our prints, that I'm sure of.
By the way, yesterdays posts reminded me of something. I'm not sure, but I think, when I first got back into film collecting, one of my first purchases ever on ebay, was from Kevin. Kev, maybe you can verify that or not. It was 2005 (I think) and I purchased two cartoons, on the same day. One was "Popeye Meets Sinbad the Sailor" and the 200ft one I can't remember the title, but I do remember that I was surprised as to how quickly they arrived.
I wonder how far back ebays records go. I'm really tempted to see if they can actually look back to the very beginning of my original ebay title "toac2001" and look at the first sales, just for curiosities sake.
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