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Bill Shenette
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- posted March 18, 2015 11:50 AM      Profile for Bill Shenette   Author's Homepage   Email Bill Shenette   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I am purchaseing a Singer Insta-Load 16
and I was wondering if there is any way to test the sound.
Thanks Much
Updated News

THe 16mm Singer Insta Load works Great Except for the speakers.
I ran a test on the speaker circut with the speakers unplugged that part is a ok.

It's got to be a connection or bad speakers.
When testing the leads comming off the circut I get good sound .
when pluging in the speakers I get nothing.
Ill check all connections Plus run a check on the spk coils.Then replace or replace the speaker.

[ April 29, 2015, 07:06 AM: Message edited by: Bill Shenette ]

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Maurice Leakey
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- posted March 18, 2015 03:09 PM      Profile for Maurice Leakey   Email Maurice Leakey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Turn up the volume control, listen for the hum.
Check the exciter lamp by flipping a piece of card across the light beam, you should be rewarded by "plopping" noises.
Or, as an alternative, run a sound film.

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Bill Shenette
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- posted March 18, 2015 06:48 PM      Profile for Bill Shenette   Author's Homepage   Email Bill Shenette   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm bring her home tomrrow.

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Bill Shenette
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- posted March 18, 2015 06:49 PM      Profile for Bill Shenette   Author's Homepage   Email Bill Shenette   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
THank You for that helpful tip Maurice Ill have her home in less than 24 hours

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Larry Arpin
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- posted March 18, 2015 11:51 PM      Profile for Larry Arpin   Author's Homepage   Email Larry Arpin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
My very first 16mm projector some 35 years ago. Don't even remember what happened to it.

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Bill Shenette
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- posted March 19, 2015 05:33 AM      Profile for Bill Shenette   Author's Homepage   Email Bill Shenette   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Wow Larry that's awesome this is my second projector.
I sure hope it works better than the B&H 535 model I have.
This B&H I wonder about it's been dropped becuae a chunk out of the base is missing around the flat edgeing that is.
I hope I'll figure it out some day.
The Singer Insta -Load is the one I am really excited about .
I'm going to get it to day going to buy it.
I cant wait until I start watching movies on it.

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Paul Mason
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Bill,
Hope I'm not stressing the obvious. [Big Grin]
Check the exciter lamp comes on.

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Bill Shenette
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- posted March 19, 2015 08:11 AM      Profile for Bill Shenette   Author's Homepage   Email Bill Shenette   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Quote from Paul

Bill,
Hope I'm not stressing the obvious.
Check the exciter lamp comes on.
No worries here but I am worried about purchaseing some splicer 16mm and some white lead film
you know the kind
\Cheers
from William

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Maurice Leakey
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Bill has sent me a PM to say that his projector runs fine but has no sound. I regret that I don't know this particular model.

I assume it has a separate speaker. Check it from the plug itself. Apply a small battery to the plug contacts, you should get a click from the speaker.

Is there an amplifier switch, if not obvious, it will probably be on the volume control.

Does the exciter lamp light up?

Is there any noise at all from the speaker, perhaps a hum which varies with the volume control. If so, check further by inserting a small piece of card between the exciter lamp and the sound optics. You should be awarded by a loud "plop" if all is OK.

It may have a valve (tube) amplifier and one has gone down, although it probably has a modern transistorised amp.

It could have an amplifier circuit breaker which comes in after an overload, this is usually reset by pressing a button.

That's about all I can offer, perhaps owners of this particular model may be able to help further.

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Bill Shenette
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- posted March 26, 2015 08:38 AM      Profile for Bill Shenette   Author's Homepage   Email Bill Shenette   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello Maurice Thanks for putting this up for me.
I should check the light that foes to the sound section of the film. I do not know about these models .
I only know this is one of my favoites. and thatI like this unit better thna my B&H.
Ill try to do a short video and put it on my You Tube Page
Thanks from Bill shenette

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Jim Schrader
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hi bill i have one of these units as well i really like it for the clear pictures it puts out let me if know if you need anything.

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Bill Shenette
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- posted March 26, 2015 02:42 PM      Profile for Bill Shenette   Author's Homepage   Email Bill Shenette   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Jim I like mine also.
I just need to ask how do you pull her appart to change the lightbulb for the sound if there ius one.
I played movies with sound and tried to adjust the vol & the tone and got no where [Frown] any help is appreciated
Thanks from Bill

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Elyas Tesfaye
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- posted March 26, 2015 11:22 PM      Profile for Elyas Tesfaye     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Bill,

I have a spare exciter lamp from my Kodak Pageant that I don't need and can give it to you free for just the price of shipping. Don't hesitate to holler if ya want her and cheers [Smile] !!!

Best,
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Jim Schrader
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Bill you want to make sure the orange load lever is down and take up arm is out of way.
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Then grab the cover from the lower left side and pull outward towards you but don't pull to far, then you will lift upward gently it may take a little bit of wiggling to work it off this should expose the lamp for both make sure you use a BSW bulb for the sound, and try not to touch the new bulb with your bare hands use a cloth towel the bulb should just twist in. hope this helps I do have a few xtra bulbs for sound if you need one.
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Richard C Patchett
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- posted March 27, 2015 11:24 AM      Profile for Richard C Patchett   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Greetings Bill

The exciter lamp should be the BSW code for this projector
If you can not tell if the lamp is burnt out you can use a continuity tester If no reading then the lamp is gone
Thank you for the comment on my web site I have been at Flynns truck stop there a few times in my passing
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Elyas Tesfaye
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Hi Jim,

such a neat and very straightforward set up on that Singer, thanks for sharing [Big Grin] !!!

cheers,
Elyas

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Bill Shenette
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I will try this Ill keep you informed .
Many thnaks
Thank You

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Bill Shenette
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- posted March 30, 2015 01:13 PM      Profile for Bill Shenette   Author's Homepage   Email Bill Shenette   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Tired it sees both light light up.
Thank you so much Bless you all my Friends

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Barry Fritz
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Both lights are working?

Regarding the white leader, you can get it and other supplies at urbanskifilm.com

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Bill Shenette
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- posted April 11, 2015 11:03 AM      Profile for Bill Shenette   Author's Homepage   Email Bill Shenette   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The lamp lights still no sound. Maybe I have to clean the tiny lens? If it is not this maybe the sound switches aka Volume control pots are burnt out.

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Bill Shenette
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well if your ever down this way again Richared Please let me know. Would love to meet you in person
Sincerely william

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Bill Shenette
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- posted April 21, 2015 05:17 AM      Profile for Bill Shenette   Author's Homepage   Email Bill Shenette   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I found out that the internal spk is no good .
will change out some time.
useing the outer speaker port with a good speaker

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