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Elyas Tesfaye
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 520
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Registered: Nov 2012

posted November 13, 2015 04:15 PM

Hi all,

just came across my first print with VS. The one question I have is if there's a cure at all as I would love to save the print [Frown]

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Cheers,
Elyas

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Clinton Hunt
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 845
From: Waharoa,North Island,New Zealand
Registered: May 2010

posted November 13, 2015 05:47 PM

Hi Elyas,
this topic comes up alot on the forum and even I've asked it ... there is no cure for VS but there are way to slow it down or mask the smell.Filmguard and other cleaners will lessen the smell but it will slowly get worse and then time to bin it!
I have a Chimps Jamboree 16mm B/W silent that was warped when I got it,however after a year or so I went to screen it and it now has VS and badly warped film! I've replaced it and binned that old copy.
Seems a waste but it's the only solution in the end as far as I know. [Frown]

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Cheers from me in New Zealand :-)

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David Guest
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1704
From: Lancashire, UK
Registered: Oct 2011

posted November 13, 2015 07:10 PM

send it back or you could spray it with furniture polish that will take out the smell but will never get rid of it and will go worse ,maybe its time to bin it

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Yanis Tzortzis
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 531
From: Greece
Registered: Aug 2005

posted November 14, 2015 05:28 AM

One question: I have a film affected & badly warped; I plan to run it through my projector to try & film it on screen with a camera so I can kind of 'digitise' & save it. It's fine for the projector--so won't affect other films I run through,no?

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Yannis

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Mark Todd
Film God

Posts: 3846
From: UK
Registered: Aug 2003

posted November 14, 2015 09:19 AM

Personally if I wanted to run a vinegar print through a projector, I would make sure I never ran a good film through it afterwards and keep it just for those.

If it was me though, I`d send it back or ask for a refund and bung it in the bin, quick, quick.

Best Mark.

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Bill Brandenstein
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1632
From: California
Registered: Aug 2007

posted November 18, 2015 12:43 PM

With all due respect to other fine opinions, I have no issue with running VS prints through the same projector so long as the film path is cleaned and there's brief time elapsed so any miniscule residual acetic acid can air out. Unless it's a polyester print, in which case it doesn't matter at all.

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Dave Groves
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 508
From: Southend on Sea, Essex, UK
Registered: Feb 2015

posted November 19, 2015 02:47 PM

My print of 'Question 7' also has a very interesting smell!! But it runs perfectly and I've never worried about using the machine afterwards. There's usually a time gap so it has plenty of airing. It's great when you can replace an affected print but it's pretty devastating when no other copies are available or are similarly affected. What with fading colour, V.s. and shrinkage I'm beginning to feel twinges of the dreaded 'digital' coming on!!!. Now what's the antidote for that?

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Dave

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Steven J Kirk
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 873
From: Southern England
Registered: Apr 2008

posted November 27, 2015 04:41 PM

So are we saying a good print can 'catch' VS by being the next film through the projector because I thought on other posts this had been ruled out?

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VistaVision
Motion Picture High-Fidelity

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Clyde Miles
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 205
From: Bromsgrove, UK
Registered: Nov 2013

posted November 27, 2015 05:35 PM

no!!!!

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