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Janice Glesser
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 - posted February 15, 2016 03:51 PM      Profile for Janice Glesser     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I had to pull back the camera so you could see I have my film projectors cohabiting with a digital projector also. The digital allows me to also project TV...DVD's...and streaming video onto my big screen. Oh...and that's a massage chair on the right. It works for me [Smile]

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Andrew Woodcock
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It's lovely Janice, just perfect for the best of ALL worlds! [Smile]

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Kenneth Horan
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 - posted February 15, 2016 06:19 PM      Profile for Kenneth Horan   Email Kenneth Horan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Wonderful setup, Janice. I've been in film collecting since I was 13 (8mm) and 16 (16mm). I have a similar setup in my living room/home theatre except my digital projector in mounted on the ceiling and my flat panel set mounted on the wall. I keep my films in a small room which I keep in the 60's. I use a small window air conditioner to maintain a cool temperature on warm days. Most of the time I don't need to run it. I love film collecting and watch my films often.

The photo shows my Elmo 16CL Xenon Deluxe 16mm projector.

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Janice Glesser
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Awesome projector Kenneth!!!

I would like to get my digital projector mounted up high...but because of the screen I'm using it has to project from below. I use to have a Sony projection TV (circa. 1979). I had the TV hauled away a couple of years ago, but kept the screen. It really is the perfect size for my cine room and the picture is very bright even when not totally dark.

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Pasquale DAlessio
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I said it before and I will say it again.....Janice you are the BOMB!!!! [Wink]

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Chris Bird
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 - posted February 16, 2016 02:31 AM      Profile for Chris Bird   Email Chris Bird   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
What a fantastic setup. It's great to have the multiple gauges - each era of projector has a very different feel, and you get a huge choice of content with the different gauges. I have 9.5, 16, 28 and silent 35 for this reason - the early films I'm particularly into are scattered across the gauges. Wish I had a permanent setup like yours though!

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Terry Sills
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Janice
Lovely set up but - Where's your 9.5 projector??

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Elyas Tesfaye
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Wait,

there's such a gauge as 28mm? I guess I still have a lot to learn then [Smile] !!!

Best,
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Dave Groves
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Once upon a time gauge wars raged and snidey comments were thrown like hand grenades across the celuloid boundaries, but most of the protagonists have long since gone to dvd or heaven. I run 16mm, Super 8 (mostly public shows as often as possible=I have a loyal following) and, digital projection. I've just bought an Epson TW92000 and the pictures are fabulous. I enjoy all I've got and hope that all my fellow collectors do the same. It's great that we have the choice.

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Janice Glesser
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Here! Here! Dave!... The variety of choices in media is growing all the time. We just need to take advantage of it.

@Terry...you're right...I shouldn't have left out my "Baby" [Smile] Unfortunately Pathe' Baby with a 10W lamp only has about a 3 foot throw...difficult to put in the mix with the other projectors at 10ft and 15ft [Frown]

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Clinton Hunt
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Yes Elyas there are or were many film gauges over the years,many simply disappeared when that gauge failed.And it left the "popular" gauges we see today :-)

https://wichm.home.xs4all.nl/filmsize.html

That website shows what there was.

Interesting discovering stuff about film that isn't commonly known :-)

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Janice Glesser
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Thanks for the web link Clinton....I didn't have a clue that there have been so many different gauges over the years...very interesting.

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Chris Bird
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Elyas, 28mm was the first gauge for showing in the home, and predates 9.5mm by ten years and 16mm by eleven. Love your Baby, Janice! Amazing to see the decades spanned by those three machines side by side.

Dino Everett is able to also show 3mm, 17.5mm and 22mm, making 28mm look fairly mainstream by comparison!

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Graham Ritchie
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Excellent photos Janice, its what this hobby is all about [Smile]

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Dave Groves
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3mm?

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Chris Bird
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Yes, 3mm! Developed for NASA use. Here's more info:

http://www.cinerdistan.co.uk/3_2mm.htm

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Dave Groves
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 - posted February 18, 2016 09:17 AM      Profile for Dave Groves     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Chris, unfortunately the link doesn't work. Thanks for the info of something I'd never come across.

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Chris Bird
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Doh! Try this:

http://cinerdistan.com/2-uncategorised/563-3-2mm-2

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Roger Shunk
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Nice set up you have there Janice. I see you have a health rider in the background now you can get your exercise in and watch a film at the same time!

I have the same problem with my rear projector and would like to mount it on the ceiling as well.

Thanks for posting your pictures!

RS

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Ken Finch
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An interesting topic Janice. Like yourself my home cinema "The Retro Roxy" has provision for screening 8mm, Super8, 9.5mm and 16mm sound and silent. as well as digital projection of VHS, Laserdisc. and DVD. The 9.5mm gauge was my first love and probably still is as I more or less grew up with it. I am probably a sentimental old whatsit!. My largest collection is on this gauge, largely amassed when people jumped on the Super 8 bandwaggon and got rid of their 9.5 stuff at give away prices. My 16mm collection is very small and no feature films. The 8mm collection is slightly larger consisting mainly of cartoons and condensed 2 or 3 reelers. A few are in widescreen. I am not particularly computer literate enough to be able to upload a picture. I find them very frustrating with the constant upgrading and changes. The learning curve is too steep at my age! I confesss to having a massive collection of films on VHS and DVD but this is only because I can pick them up at pocket money prices. I could never afford the price of a 16mm or Super 8 feature length film. I probably enjoy using the cine projectors more because they do require more hands on skills. Ken Finch. [Smile]

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Janice Glesser
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@Ken...I'd be happy to post any pics for you if you can email them to me. It sounds like you have an interesting setup.

@Roger...You discovered that my cine room is also a multi-purpose area [Roll Eyes] In the other corner of the room I have my exercise equipment ... vintage of course. [Cool]

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Dave Groves
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Chris, just picked up your reply and the link worked perfectly. What an interesting site. To see an article on the Cinegel Royal 235 was a bonus as I imported one of these 9.5/16mm machines on the understanding it would be supplied for 240 volts. When it arrived I plugged it in and the bang could be heard in Australia. The lights went out and the room was filled with smoke!!! The distributor had supplied one for 110 without the transformer. Happy memories.

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Roger Shunk
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Yeah I see that Janice and it looks like you have a lot of direct sunlight in that room too because you live in Sunnyvale! [Cool] [Big Grin]

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Daniel Macarone
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I'm not very knowledged on 16mm equipment yet. I've only been collecting Super 8. I do believe that the Elmo 16 CL is only optical sound and the CX-350 is magnetic and optical. Can the 16 CL really see much use? Magnetic films seem more common.

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Janice Glesser
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Daniel, there is an Elmo 16CL MO dual sound model, however unlike 8mm ... 16mm has primarily optical sound tracks.

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