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Topic: Blu- Disc not catching on?
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Paul Adsett
Film God
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From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted November 05, 2008 01:34 PM
Steve, your comment about the 4:3 stretched image really hit home with me. Just about everywhere I go, doctors offices, auto service stations, airports, you name it, they all have that 16:9 LCD panel hanging on the wall with the 4:3 image stretched out to fill it. So everyone on the TV looks 100 lbs overweight - and nobody seems to notice! What does that tell you about Americans!
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Osi Osgood
Film God
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted November 05, 2008 04:12 PM
Graham ...
I am one in the same. Sometimes I completely forget the film I am watching, and just look at color, scratch level, ect.
I must admit, strangely enough, that I don't get off on that as much with Black and White prints. I think this could be that for some reason, I feel that the scratch SHOULD be there, and this becomes even more apparent with silent movies, as I feel that the scratches are quite right with silent movies , giving a pseudo feeling of great age to the print. Strange, eh?
The only time when I've felt that way about a color print is with my EXTREMELY scratched edited copy of "Magical Mystery Tour" which is in stereo, and for some odd reason, I don't mind the excessive scratching and color loss. Once again, I have to chock it up to the film being an artifact of a specific time and so the scratches don't take away but enhance the enjoyment of the film.
... strange but true!
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Barry Attwood
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1411
From: Enfield, U.K.
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted November 06, 2008 01:50 AM
I think one of the reasons for Blu-Ray not taking off as quickly as a lot of people thought, is the fact that the average household, would not only have to buy a Blu-Ray player, but a new HD TV as well, I know the players are gradually coming down in price, but a decent size 1080p (why anyone would go for the "HD" ready lower lines is a mystery to me, if you're going to have HD then go the distance and get the best) TV is still pretty dear, so an overall package can come in at a pretty hefty cost, and that's before you buy any discs. We still use a conventional TV (not even 16/9), a multi region DVD player, although we do have a nice surround system, and at this point I am quite happy, sure I would like to upgrade, but until a combo set up comes into my price range, then Blu-Ray will just have to wait.
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Christopher P Quinn
Expert Film Handler
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From: Bedfordshire
Registered: Sep 2008
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posted November 06, 2008 07:54 AM
I think you have to remember that there is a credit crunch on at the moment, i prefer the old fashion term recession myself. This is going to slow down BD sales. But here in the UK it is catching on, and as soon as more newly released films come out on BD this will gather momentum. Blockbuster dvd rental giant now stock Blu rays.
John,
I am shocked that you preferred HD ![[Eek!]](eek.gif) Blimey mate. HD, although i agree was better while BD was sorting it self out, BD will give the average punter much more.
Already BD has morphed its self to BD live with the new profile 2.0 upgrade and that will transform the way you can watch films, with interaction taken to another stage. Menus are no longer slow clunking things that hold up the film, and can be accessed easily while the film is still running.
As far as quality goes BD v DVD, there is no question that BD is far superior in many ways, and upscaling your old DVD collection is a added bonus. I am chomping at the bit here to go 1080P with projection, I was viewing my favorite all timer yesterday The Wizard of Oz, and thinking how good will this look on BD. My special edition DVD is quite good, but when Dorothy moves away from the screen you loose the checks in her dress, it's almost like she has changed into a plain blue dress, in BD this will not happen. surely this can only be good, along with the better colour representation, and sound, BD is unquestionable the way forward for digital entertainment.
I believe that we as film collectors, should keep the two formats separate. Digital has it's own look and although can be made to look more filmy, i have to ask is there a point. I liked Tony Milmans remarked about running a green felt tip pen down one side of the screen ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) Seriously i prefer film and noisy projectors and DVD for that latest blockbuster. I spend hours fiddling trying to get the colour/contrast right, but not necessarily to match real film, just so it looks natural as possible. Which it a bit strange when modern films are nothing but natural, every scene the director has used a different colour filter, and the Wizard of OZ's Technicolor extravaganza is hardly natural, although great to look at.
Chris..
BTW, Before i get told, i know the Wizard of Oz is at this moment in time not available on BD in either 16:9 or 4:3 ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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and one of the movies was running in W/S instead of "Scope" the image as you can guess was stretched "looked awful" I thought I better fix things put it into Scope "thats better" and offered free tickets to the people coming out..saying sorry about that. They looked surprised at me ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
as they had not noticed that anything was wrong and that was for over an hour ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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