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Steven J Kirk
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Southern England
Registered: Apr 2008

posted February 12, 2017 04:57 PM

Nice-looking 35mm projector set up for home use with dinky little lamp house. EBay UK :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kinoton-35mm-Cinema-Projector-Ready-To-Run-in-The-Home-YOU-MUST-WATCH-THE-VIDEO-/201816431770?hash=item2efd325c9a:g:D7IAAOSwB-1YoE8k

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Clinton Hunt
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Waharoa,North Island,New Zealand
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posted February 12, 2017 08:38 PM

And be sure to watch the video on the auction.I watched it through the link on a Facebook page [Smile]

Owning this would be awesome!

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Tom Spielman
Master Film Handler

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From: Minneapolis, MN, USA
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posted February 13, 2017 12:12 AM

How heavy is a 6,000 foot reel of 35mm film?

Trying to imagine the expression of my wife's face if she were to come home to see that in the living room. [Wink]

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Maurice Leakey
Film God

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From: Bristol. United Kingdom
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posted February 13, 2017 02:32 AM

A spool with 6000ft of film on it is relatively easy to handle, although I have never weighed one.

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Jean-Marc Toussaint
Film God

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posted February 13, 2017 02:57 AM

A full reel of 6000ft of 35mm film can weigh up to 15 kilos.
This is a great set-up, the Kinoton FP series are fantastic projectors, I run a FP50 at home.

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Maurice Leakey
Film God

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From: Bristol. United Kingdom
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posted February 13, 2017 06:32 AM

I thought the lamp on a Kinoton projector pulsed on and off and so did away with the need of a shutter.
If so, how does this eBay offering manage?
Or, am I wrong?

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Dave Groves
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Southend on Sea, Essex, UK
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posted February 13, 2017 08:41 AM

Don't very often get envious but.........this is a dream machine.

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Jean-Marc Toussaint
Film God

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From: France
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posted February 13, 2017 09:40 AM

Maurice, all Kinoton are regular projectors (ie - lamphouses + shutter), some can be adapted to the pulsed lamp system which was invented by Philips (early Kinoton machines are Philips machines), the later models of the "E" series had a microprocessor controlled shutter and intermittent system for optimal light throughput and steadiness.

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Steven J Kirk
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Southern England
Registered: Apr 2008

posted February 13, 2017 09:44 AM

The great thing about this one is that it would go flat up against a back wall and not take up too much space. I have a pedestal 16mm machine and the same is true, because the reels are above and below and the back is flat it can take up less space than a portable with a 2,000ft reel on the rear arm. This is true of my set-up, the 16mm pedestal lens is six inches further back than the lens on my Eiki NT1s were. 35mm spools and storing the films, now that is a storage problem. Getting hold of good 35mm prints and storing them would be the issue for me. Mind you there are plenty of trailers.

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Maurice Leakey
Film God

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From: Bristol. United Kingdom
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posted February 13, 2017 11:26 AM

The easiest way to store 35mm features is on 6000ft spools as two, or maybe three, would hold the film, as opposed to a stack of 2000ft cans.
However, the price of the large spools would increase the cost of a feature.

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Tom Spielman
Master Film Handler

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From: Minneapolis, MN, USA
Registered: Apr 2016

posted February 13, 2017 11:55 AM

I'm assuming these things get bolted to the floor. Otherwise it looks like they could topple over pretty easily.

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Jean-Marc Toussaint
Film God

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From: France
Registered: Oct 2004

posted February 13, 2017 03:17 PM

They weigh 240 kilos so believe me, they won't topple easily. The top part is almost empty (these models have a free spinning pay-off axle).

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Terry Sills
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From: Weymouth,Dorset,England
Registered: Oct 2012

posted February 13, 2017 05:25 PM

Great machine but what a shame its so noisy! I think i'll stick to my Hollywood Star - the quietest 16mm projector ever made and to be honest 16mm most probably gives the optimum picture quality for home presentation. If you've got a dedicated projection booth then this is fantastic realistic opportunity to get into 35mm, but not for the likes of most of us. I once had a Simplex portable 35mm sound projector in its own blimp/case and when running the projector was barely audible. Wish I had kept it.

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Michael Lattavo
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