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Janice Glesser
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posted November 19, 2013 12:46 PM

I thought I'd have a little fun with a few of the home movies that came with my Pathe' Baby.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQL4M9MxZnI

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Dominique De Bast
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posted November 19, 2013 12:55 PM

I am not a fan of video transferts but you did a good job. The titling and the editing make a very enjoyable clip ! Well done, Janice...

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Janice Glesser
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posted November 19, 2013 07:42 PM

Thanks Dominique...I understand your feelings about transfers. Video lacks the essence of film. But, since it's not very practical to bring my projectors to show my films to all friends and family...this is the next best way I can preserve and share these images. I love video editing as much as I love old projectors and watching film. I've found that telecine has allowed me to combine video and film for a very enjoyable hobby [Smile]

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John Yapp
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From: Telford England.
Registered: Dec 2011

posted November 20, 2013 01:05 PM

As you know Janice, I love a good tranfer. One thing I've noticed about your treatment of silent film is how you always seem to use very appropriate music in the background.
Now I have a question. As my Exposure to 9.5mm is virtually nil, and given that yours is a hand cranked camera, so you adjust as you go, what is the "correct" fps to display natural movement, similar to 8mm?

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Dominique De Bast
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posted November 20, 2013 01:24 PM

John, the correct speed is the one that makes look a normal movment on the screen. As a guide, the first Pathé Baby projectors ran at 14 fps (to save filmstock as much as possible).

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Janice Glesser
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posted November 20, 2013 02:47 PM

I really don't make a big effort to make the perfect transfer with my Pathe' Baby. I just try to pick a speed and stay with it. I've noticed that the commercial films actually show less flicker on video than the home movies...so they probably are at different frame rates. I think the flicker is part of the endearing quality of these old films.

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Janice

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John Yapp
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From: Telford England.
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posted November 20, 2013 02:55 PM

thanks Dominique, I asked because I read somewhere that early 9.5mm projectors ran at 12fps but wasn't sure.
Janice, I agree that a bit of flicker helps to convey the atmosphere that these old films evoke. I am surprised at how often the projectors and films pop up on ebay, and may yet be tempted...

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Paul Adsett
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posted November 20, 2013 03:17 PM

Hi Janice,
What a wonderful job you have done on these old Pathex casettes.
I have similar home movie casettes which came with my ebay purchase of a Pathe Baby. But your telecine transfer and the added music really brings them to life again.
It is fascinating to look at these films and ponder about the lives of the people who appear on the screen, where they lived, what paths their lives took, particularly with the looming WW2, where are their family today. One thing for sure, they were all wealthy. A Pathe Baby projector and camera cost a fortune relative to income back then, it was a real luxury item.

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Clinton Hunt
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posted November 20, 2013 08:33 PM

Well done Janice,and the actual movies are lots of fun to watch [Smile]

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Maurice Leakey
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posted November 22, 2013 04:39 AM

One turn of the crank on the Pathe Baby equals seven frames, hence to obtain the correct speed of 14fps the crank needs to be turned twice a second.

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