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Jean-Marc Toussaint
Film God

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From: France
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posted March 20, 2013 06:44 AM

Janice, the two 5-pin din sockets at the front are for "aux. in" (near the record level button) and "aux. out" (near the front of the machine). You will need to find a cable/adapter to connect the "aux. out" to a phono line in (usually RCA connectors) of an amplifier, to which your speaker will be connected.
If you just need an extra speaker, use the two pin (one flat, one round) socket at the back of the projector with a plug similar to the one described by Maurice in the above post.

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Maurice Leakey
Film God

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From: Bristol. United Kingdom
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posted March 21, 2013 03:35 AM

Janice

Have you got an Instruction Manual for the Eumig 810D? If not, you can download a copy from the Film-Tech site.

The "External Speaker Socket" is shown at position "11" on the rear panel.

You will need a "DIN" speaker plug. This has two pins, one small round and a larger flat, i.e., it will only fit one way.

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Janice Glesser
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From: Sunnyvale, CA USA
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posted March 21, 2013 02:17 PM

Yes, I have the manual Maurice and I've located the socket on the back. It's more a matter of getting the correct 2-DIN plug with attached cord. I've only been able to locate the plug itself with no cord attached. The link I referenced above is a 5-DIN plug that I can connect to the AUX-OUT on the front and it has a mini plug connector which with plug adapters would work for me....but will this channel the audio out to a peripheral device like a recorder or speaker? ...or is the 2 pin DIN on the back the only viable source?

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Jim Schrader
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posted March 21, 2013 02:33 PM

my eumig came with this 3 prong adaptor

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Janice Glesser
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posted March 21, 2013 07:19 PM

Thanks Jim for the photo...I couldn't find a 3-pin DIN to RCA cable..but I found a 5 pin...will this work?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-X-25-Foot-5-pin-Din-Male-2-RCA-Male-Cable-Connector-Adapter-/261178584750?pt=US_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3ccf74eeae

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Steve Klare
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posted March 21, 2013 08:50 PM

Hi Janice,

My experience with Eumigs and amplifiers is they aren't grounded very well and can produce some spectacular hum when connected to an external amp.

If you plug yours in, stick a meter on the case and measure like a volt AC to house ground, you have one of these!

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Maurice Leakey
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From: Bristol. United Kingdom
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posted March 22, 2013 04:08 AM

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I want to connect my Eumig 810D to external speakers

Janice

Do you want to connect direct to a speaker? Or do you want to connect to an amplifier for ultimate output to its speaker/s?

The earlier Eumigs are prone to hum, and as Steve said the latter idea will only amplify the hum. It's best to go direct from the external speaker socket as I said before.

Most DIN speaker plugs are usually sold just as the plug, the idea is that the user will connect a suitable lead. Here is a link to a UK seller who will sell to the US. The tags have a screw connection for the wires. The plugs simply pull apart to make the connections.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190815204645

If you refer to page 15 of the manual you will see details of connecting to item 28 (Line Output). Note that the socket is five pin, however a three pin plug will connect OK. 3-pin were used for mono connections, and 5-pin had the added pins for stereo.

If you wish to consider using the Line Output I suggest you use the following:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-2m-5-Pin-Male-Din-Plug-4-x-RCA-Phono-Male-Plugs-Audio-Cable-006109-/200832692802?pt=US_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item2ec28fb242

A little trial and error will produce the required result. The end connections may not fit your amplifier, but no doubt you could provide suitable plugs. But, as previously said, such a connection may increase the hum.

By the time the 900 series were produced Eumig did seem to have sorted out their hum problem.

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Ken Finch
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From: Herne Bay, Kent. U.K.
Registered: Oct 2011

posted March 25, 2013 02:24 PM

Janice, I have a Eumig 810D and the external Speaker socket is on the back of the projector and is a 2pin DIN speaker socket as already described so you need a 2 pin DIN speaker plug connected to the speaker lead. I prefer to use the Line Out Socket which is the 5pin DIN socket at the bottom right hand corner of the front operating side of the projector marked with a triangle, and feed the signal into a spare channel of my Yamaha AV amplifier. Ken Finch.

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Bruce Wright
Expert Film Handler

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From: Denham Springs, La.
Registered: Oct 2011

posted March 25, 2013 09:58 PM

Here's my take on the audio output. I have an ELMO ST-1200HD
and a EUMIG MARK S 810D. The ELMO came with the sc-002 adapter
cable. It's about 7 inches long with a small flat pin / round
pin on one end and a 1/4 female plug on the other. This cable
fits both projectors. Went to Radio Shack, got a 1\4 inch male/
female Y adapter. Plus two 1/4 male plugs and 32 ft. of speaker wire. Split the wire apart, attached the plugs, connected the
other ends to a pair of 8 ohm speakers. THE SOUND OF MUSIC

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