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Topic: Jurassic Park complete super 8 feature and others
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Andrew Woodcock
Film God
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From: Manchester Uk
Registered: Aug 2012
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posted February 27, 2015 06:00 PM
Not to be rude Mark, as I really do see your point of view having been a viewer of both methods of screening movies for many years,but this is a film forum website after all. So giving everyone the raised eyebrow treatment just because a modern box of stored data only costs £8.99 for what would be well over £1000 if on 6000ft plus of celluloid..doesn't really cut it on here I'm afraid.
It just comes across somewhat patronizing and condescending if I am honest.
As I say, I certainly don't want to fall out with our respected members on here for what are, after all, only points of view, but if you have moved on to more modern day methods of screening up to the point where you may even question why any of us would ever do this, then maybe you might just have forgotten why this FILM forum still exists.
It is a crazy hobby Mark, that I cannot deny, it also makes no logical sense why we do what we do and pay what we pay, but there are healthy numbers growing here by the day, so I guess whatever the reason, I and Maurizio are not alone in our total appreciation of real actual film.
As for the scratches Mark, what you describe very much used to be me, I questioned myself many times over "is it worth it", but then I got a successful formula of the right methods coupled with the right machines and now, I can happily and honestly say that I truly relax, just sit back and enjoy the film as often as I like, totally scratch free... until something else goes wrong! lol.
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Andrew Woodcock
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From: Manchester Uk
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posted February 27, 2015 06:08 PM
Me too Vidar, though when no film exists, I do still enjoy the movie, just not with the same thrill from the experience. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif) ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Again, I no have explanation as to why, but a movie I watch on film sticks with me forever, on DVD or Blu Ray, the same experience is very often forgettable, though I cannot quantify what the reasons for this are though, strangely enough.
[ February 27, 2015, 07:24 PM: Message edited by: Andrew Woodcock ]
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Mark Todd
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From: UK
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted March 01, 2015 09:21 AM
This is my point Andrew, you never know where you will be with a new or 2nd hand print, so the higher the prices go, the worse the on a fairly regular basis the fall.
I`ll admit I come from a perspective or being shafted, ( excuse me ) all to often. And there just bad luck too.
As prices go on up with certain films, so goes higher the fall.
I sat and watched Dune 10 feet wide on DVD the other must have upscaled well as looked superb and found myself getting the shakes and tears in my eyes etc and was totally immersed in the actual film.
I just worry that the hobby is pricing itself new and 2nd hand films wise out of a sensible zone so the chance for any newbies staying with it diminishes all the time.
I don`t think the ebay factor, and see it must have it etc with that doesn`t help the hobby.
Don`t get me wrong I absolutely love film but sadly silly prices push back anyone on a lowish income or with family, children etc back to only being able to try for cheaper, B+W washed out or colour often gone cheaper stuff.
There has come in recent years a real negative engery into cine that is all about money and screwing all you can out of it etc, on machines ( an even bigger gamble ) and films.
For me I definately feel a change in the nature of the hobby.
Best Mark.
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Paul Browning
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1006
From: West Midlands United Kingdom
Registered: Aug 2011
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posted March 02, 2015 04:36 PM
its a strip of rust Andrew glued to the film. I don't know how you would "key" the film accurately enough to get it to stick though. The film would need to pass over something chemically abrasive within a thousands of an inch, or an abrasive wheel which you would need to make run true, within these tolerances, if my memory serves me correctly I saw this being done at Derann, but it looked like the film was passed closely to a small tank containing the already mixed liquid stripe, this was applied by what looked like a tiny wheel spinning at speed and this just flicked the liquid stripe in a straight line on to the film, and this passed through a long line of drying wheels either end of large cabinets, and then onto a spool at the end. I do remember speaking to Derek, who was a bit miffed with someone not giving him the complete formula, and as he put it, "they didn't tell us about the resin that should have been in the mix". I got the impression he was being given the run around, and had discovered what was missing. Now I think about it, it must have been more like a shellac or lacquer that's sticky and would evaporate to allow the stripe to stick and flex. Thing is could you still get these raw products now, I imagine the health and safety pen pushers would have stopped the manufacture of some of the products, or you would need certificate to get them.
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