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Paul Adsett
Film God
Posts: 5003
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted October 21, 2008 10:51 AM
I think to some extent the UK collectors take their various conventions for granted. I know if I lived there I would be at the BFCC, Blackpool, and Tadley, every year. And the UK is a small country so it does not take that long to drive to any of these venues. We have nothing like that here in the USA, so the UK collectors are really very lucky in that regard.
I think the enthusiasm for cine is intimately connected with having grown up with it and experiencing first hand the times when a Pathescope Ace projecting on an 18 inch screen in the home was something to behold and when a walk down the High Street usually passed a photo shop with a window display of a Bolex M8R or Bell and Howell 606, with shiny aluminum reels, and an assortment of 8mm package films to entice you inside. Having talked to young people about cine, and held classes on the subject, I can tell you that they are very interested in it, and readily appreciate that it is quite a different technology from video. But I doubt that many of them will ever take it up as a hobby as DVD is just so much easier and cheaper.
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Christopher P Quinn
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 210
From: Bedfordshire
Registered: Sep 2008
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posted October 21, 2008 10:58 AM
I agree with most that has been said on here about the future of the hobby. I am trying to sort out things so i can attend the Blackpool convention this year, i think it's at the Savoy Hotel?? I have never been, so will be exciting. It's a case of use it or lose it for sure, if all the UK guy's on here made it priority to make these conventions i'm sure it would make a difference. We have had our American & European cousins make it, there is no excuse for not going and that includes myself. If it's no longer here then we will feel bad that when it was we neglected it. I am absolutely skint, stony broke, but a credit card visit to Blackpool won't make that much difference to me, so sod it you only live once.
I really enjoyed being at the BFCC this year a great way to meet up with friends, make friends and have a bloody good day out. Lets not loose this, when it's gone i fear that will be it.
Sorting out video still really pushed to find time for anything at the moment, but here's another pic...
Hope it works seems very temperamental this system of putting up pics. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
Chris.
Is that a GS1200 Motor, quick Craig get it out.
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Keith Ashfield
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 997
From: U.K.
Registered: Dec 2006
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posted October 22, 2008 02:13 AM
I think our friends "South of the Border" should look upon the Blackpool convention as a "Pilgrimage", just as us "Northerners" do for Ealing. It is something that should be done at least once. You never know you might like it ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Blackpool, for me is, in terms of distance, is like Ealing, to the Lightwater guys. Come on lads, hire a minibus and pays us a visit, we don't eat meat on Sundays anymore, so you will be quite safe, and made very welcome. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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David Pannell
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1072
From: Horsham, West Sussex, UK
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted October 22, 2008 05:34 AM
I suppose, like most other Members, I am deeply saddened at the prospect of things cinematographic waning. - Not only that, but I can't help feeling guilty myself for the lack of attendance on my part. It is unfortunate that the spirit is willing, but business circumstances dictate otherwise.
I just hope against hope that there will still be some conventions to attend by the time my work load diminishes. Each time the BFCC comes around I try my level best to attend, but it really is difficult. That's why I posted a thread in General Yak a few weeks ago (which didn't seem to elicit any response) to try to assure everyone that my interest end enthusiasm has not in the least waned.
I certainly remain an avid enthusiast and hopefully look forward to our continued existence.
Kev, - for once I hope you are wrong - but I fear not!
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Valves and celluloid - a great combination!
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Rob Koeling
Master Film Handler
Posts: 399
From: Brighton, UK
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted October 23, 2008 12:01 PM
I also enjoyed the day enormously. The disadvantage of having a table is that you don't see much of the shows. But dispite the slightly lower numbers, stuff disappeared from the table swiftly! There is now plenty of space for new material.
I do agree with Michael that Ealing seems to cater better for the (S)8mm collector, than 16mm, but having said that, most of the times I attended, I managed to pick up at least one print I was very pleased with. Though, not this time. On previous occasions I spent most of my money at Tony Hutchinsons table, but his selection was limited this time. I have no worries that that will be better next time (and I'm sure that next time I will compensate by buying more than I am supposed to do).
People who sell their their stuff on Ebay, should really consider getting a table in Ealing next time. If you think you haven't got enough to put on the table, maybe try to arrange something with 1 or 2 other forum members. It is nice to sell to people directly. Ebay's fees are getting ridiculous anyway. This was the 3rd or 4th time I had a table (with Mike) and I was pleased with the results every time. At some point you get so many things that you don't really watch anymore. Then it is time to move it on and get something new. A convention is a great opportunity for doing exactly that. It is also nice to chat with all those people we know from either the forum or from buying/selling in the past.
Another great job Keith Wilton and John Clancy and all those other people who make it possible. Bring on the next one!
- Rob
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Christopher Way
Film Handler
Posts: 51
From: Bournemouth, England
Registered: Oct 2008
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posted October 27, 2008 07:16 PM
May I take this opportunity to add my views or opinions on this matter. I have asked the question about making the weekends longer, with more activity involved. Make it more of a weekend meeting, with other things thrown in for good meausre. The emphasis seems to be that some think it is too far to travel for a day visit, some say it costs too much for a day visit, etc etc. Others have said that could more be added, like a full length film in the evening, etc etc.
I have asked on one or two occasions about moving the Blackpool BFCC meeting to October, but have been told it clashes with the October Ealing meeting. Most are in agreement that not enough are attending the meetings. So why not have just the one Ealing meeting in May, with the Blackpool meeting in the October. By this for the October meeting other highlights could be added such as the Blackpool lights, the front, amusements, shows etc. This would make a worthwhile weekend, arriving Friday night, or Saturday if you live closer, and leaving Sunday. Likewise with the Ealing meeting, this could be made into a weekend, where one could take in other amenities in London. As I said, on both venues a full length feature film could be shown, or a show as in the hey days of cinema.
The cost of entry is sometimes the factor mentioned. Lower the entrance fee, but maybe charge stall holders, or a percentage of takings (dont bite my head off, this just an idea/opinion).
I attend many weekend meetings for other organisations such as Navy, Holiday Travel, Sea Cadets. These use to be on a particular day, but now we make it a weekend. By contacting hotels we normally get good prices on a bulk booking, or as in the case of Blackpool nice little guest houses.
It is feasible, and worth a look at if the present trend is going to continue, and the BFCC meetings loses more visitors. It is time to promote it up a bit more as they say.
Just my thoughts, I can assure you.
Regards, Chris
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