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Fabrizio Mosca
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 - posted January 17, 2010 02:15 PM      Profile for Fabrizio Mosca   Email Fabrizio Mosca   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I don't know how many of you usually attend flea markets. Here in Milan there are 3 different every sunday plus other two once a month.
Sometime you may find real bargains on items regarding our collection, other times oddities, many other times things sold for more than their real value, with conditions varying from very good to terrible.
Lots of times you may also see 15mt reels with private film that the owners decided to throw away (and this makes me really sad, as it's the same thing as throwing pictures in the rubbish).
During these years I found lots of things but the ones that remain in my mind (and in my house) are:
- a Pathe DS8 BTL camera in great condition
- a Fujica Z800
- some film negatives and work prints of documentaries (including a 16mm negative on Formula 1 with Niki Lauda, and a rare Barilla documentary in super8)
- some lenses, a couple of projectors and some full features.

But the strangest and sillyest thing was found today. There were two 35mm cans with some 16mm rolls inside and no titles on the cans. I had a quick look and I realized they were negatives, but the perforation was strange. A deeper look and I realized that they were double super8.
I hoped they were some shorts or cartoons and so, when I was back home, I had a looked at the images...
Well... they are porn shorts! I could have imagined everything but that, and I started to laugh!

BTW, every time I go I hope to find a GS1200, but this kind of bargain happens to other people [Mad]

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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quote:
a rare Barilla documentary in super8
Hi Fabrizio. Very funny and interesting!
I'm really curious about that Barilla Documentary.
Will you please let me know about it, after screening? It would be very kind of you.

I can even imagine your face in discovering those X-rated movies. The same had happened to me so longtime ago. I was supposed to find some cartoons inside the boxes. But, thanks God, the seller took them back.

At least it was a lucky day (I'm referring in general to all itmes you found, X-rated movies included [Big Grin] ).
Ciao! Next time you will find a brand new and shining GS [Razz] .

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Fabrizio Mosca
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Hi Gian,
the Barilla documentary is on a 180mt spool, about 20 minutes or so. It's in color and covers all the history of Barilla from 1877 to 1977, using both pictures, newspaper articles and some rarities as one shot of Mina singing for a commercial and the complete maccheroni sequence from "Un americano a Roma" with Alberto Sordi.
Colors have held well and image is well defined. I don't know how many copies were made, I suppose it was a sort of gift to employees or, better, management of Barilla.

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Joe Caruso
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I can't tell you how many yard sales, thrift stores and baragin flea markets I've been to, even held table selling at many of them just to see how the other half approaches things - i found many films and machines/accessories, most vendors do not have an idea of value and rely on us collectors to help. In doing so, I've come away with many discount sales of choice items that are as good as retail

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Bill Phelps
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I love going to flea markets and finding film related stuff and LP's for my collections.

The two best bargins that were film related:

Chinon 330 sound projector in excellent working order for $8.00!
Canon Canonet 8 standard 8mm camera mint condition and in working order for $1.00!

I sold the projector and I still use the camera.

Bill

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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Hi Fabrizio. So interesting in reading about that Documentary.
Do you think you are in a position to supply me some screen shots? Thanks.

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Patrick Walsh
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I have found the odd thing at garage sales etc, the recent was a super 8 400ft sound version of MADIGAN I got for $2!
Most of the cine stuff I see here is just those cheap Hanimex silent projectors, I got a Boots super 8 camera and projector once, the camera goes well but the projector is a heap of junk and is very hard on film.
Never seen a GS for sale at a garage sale before???

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Osi Osgood
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I did once find a Kodak Ektasound movie deck in the flea market for a dollar. That was some years ago. The person thought it was a slide projector and he had lost all his slides, so he had no use for them.

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Larry Arpin
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Fabrizio-I'm sure those negatives you found had super 8mm perforations on either side of the 16mm negative. Kodak used to make not only a print stock but a negative stock on 7272 that is used to dupe prints. I used this to do an entire feature, half on one side and half on the other. This way I only needed to print one feature at a time. It was very efficient. I know of one feature that was printed this way that one forum member has here.

Sorry, I take the 5th.

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Fabrizio Mosca
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Gian, not at the moment. I don't know when the next projection will be or what format I'll screen. Anyway, I'll keep in mind your request and I'll try to shoot some pictures next time I'll screen it.

Larry, you're right, perforations are on both sides. A friend of mine once had a double super8 print with one set of perforation on the side of the film and the other in the centre of the film. He told me that that was the usual standard when you had to print a super8 film. Have you ever heard of this kind of print film?

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Larry Arpin
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Yes that is the way to make 2 prints from a 16mm negative. I believe it is referred to as 1-3. The way I described with the double super 8mm negative was contact printed and I believe it is referred to as 1-4.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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quote:
BTW, every time I go I hope to find a GS1200, but this kind of bargain happens to other people
I got one ! [Wink]

And the strange thing is the flea market seller who texted me (long distance) about the said projector and I got really (really!, I meant it) bargain.

But that will be the ugliest projector in the world [Big Grin] as I shared in other thread.

At least I am now proud to be one of the owner of this machine [Razz]

cheers,

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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Our lucky Winbert eh eh eh.
Thanks Fabrizio. No hurry.

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Michael O'Regan
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Other than a pretty crappy looking print of LONDON AFTER MIDNIGHT - it was in such poor state, I left it behind - nothing!

[Wink]

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Bill Phelps
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Come on Michael....aren't we getting a little touchy about print conditions!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Bill

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Michael O'Regan
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Ah, but Bill you shoulda seen it. It looked like it hadn't seen a run of Filmrenew in years!!! Definitely wasn't worth the tenner.
[Smile]

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Bill Phelps
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Yeah, that is a bit much considering the price of Filmrenew...

...let someone else find it! [Big Grin]

Bill

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Keith Ashfield
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I did get a budgerigar from a flea market. Not much use in the projector, but it was going "cheep" [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

I would have bought a flea, but they were all busy watching "101 Dalmations"..... [Razz]

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John Davis
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The best I managed was sort of indirect. A friend bought me a Rectaflex 1300 (1950s SLR) at a car boot sale for £5, probably very cheap because it wouldn't focus.
I checked the camera over and apart from the focus the rest worked beautifully, I then noticed that the previous user had glued a small eyesight correction lens onto the viewfinder; once I prised this off the camera focused properly.
That apart I've had little success with car boot sales

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Hans van der Sloot
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I don't visit fleamarkets, but here in the Netherlands we have Queensday at april 30th.
At that day everyone is allowed to sell everything they want at the street.
So the whole country is one big fleamarket that day and there are sometimes great bargains to find.
Of course I found some film related things in the course of the years, but nothing really serious.
Only 3 years ago I saw a Catozzo (C.I.R.) M3-16mm 2T Special lying on a carpet.
When I asked for the price they said they wanted € 2,-. [Smile]
It's the latest model and I believe these splicers cost about € 300,- / € 400,- new.
So that was my one and only lucky buy.

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Adrian Winchester
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I'm reading this enviously as I've NEVER found a film at a comparable event in the UK or a charity shop, etc. My only related purchase is an old, small free-standing Boots screen that I've occasionally made use of.

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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The very first GS I have bought was found in one of these flea markets. The guys (both previous seller and buyer) did not know anything about 8mm projectors. It was sold for 80 euro [Roll Eyes] .

The guy who had it for that price re-sold it to me for a 'little more'. Ebay... Miracles happen. But probably not always to the right people eh eh eh [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] !

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Christian Bjorgen
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A tape reel player and bootleg reels with a Jim Reeves concert from 1964. 200 kr (about £20/$35).

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Stewart John Boyle
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Jim Reeves..wow he was my musical memory of the the late 70`s .. my dad was crazy about him.. boxcar willie too [Smile]
Thanks Christian
Stewart

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Jean-Marc Toussaint
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A Beaulieu 708 in mint condition. The guy agreed to trade for my Eumig S810D plus 150 euros. My better half paid for it and gave me the projector as a gift.

I also found a mint Eiki NT2 16mm machines with all acessories (CIR splicer, lenses, extra speaker) for 80 euros.

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