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Yes you most certainly can, but they widen the gate for digital transfers. So if you tried watching the final movie on a projector, the image would be cut off top and bottom.
To be precise: It would be cut on the right side (=the area reserved for the soundstripe).
But it would be cut.
Thanks Shane and Joerg for that answer. Just as well I don't have 5k going spare.
When you need a Max8-camera: Pro8mm is also selling refurbished S8-cameras that have been converted to Max8. Nevertheless, they are usually cheaper than the new Kodak.
When looking for a tested/CLAed Super8-camera with a warranty, then there are much cheaper options in the EU.
i think that was probably a very fair and objective review of the new Kodak camera. I don't think anyone who has used existing quality super 8 cameras such as Nizo's, Canon's etc, is ever going to buy this just to get electronic feedback and a swivel viewfinder. The USB socket for recording sound is an excellent feature though.
i think that was probably a very fair and objective review of the new Kodak camera. I don't think anyone who has used existing quality super 8 cameras such as Nizo's, Canon's etc, is ever going to buy this just to get electronic feedback and a swivel viewfinder. The USB socket for recording sound is an excellent feature though.
It was a good and fair review! For me the price is the biggest issue! Also I'm not fond of LCD screens, and much prefer an actual viewfinder as found on vintage Super 8 cameras. Plus the footage they showed does not capture the true beauty of Super 8 as found with modern Ektachrome color reversal. My projected image would blow this negative footage out of the water. To me, negative Super 8 looks washed out, and not true to life colors. But I also understand a large portion of today's Super 8 shooters only use negative. However, I've noticed an uptick of people on Super 8 pages talking about using lots of Ektachrome. That is where it's at for me with Super 8! OK I'm rambling as usual LOL.
My projected image would blow this negative footage out of the water
I feel the same way Shane. My old 8mm Kodachrome films, shot with a Bolex camera with a prime Kern- Switar lens, looks much sharper, better contrast, and better color saturation, than what they are showing on these negative scans.
Well, they released it, that's at least something...
I downloaded the manual and went through it.
Some truly strange decision-making here; the camera is like a Jekyll-Hyde creation in terms of functionality.
The good:
Wide aspect ratio, basically "Super-Super-8", much like "Super-16."
Interchangeable lenses
Separate audio recording for sync in post
You can shoot Kodak Vision3 50 at the correct ASA setting
The terrible:
LCD-screen only for framing and focusing.
Ever been outside in the sun with one of these as your only resource?
A bright optical finder with a good split-screen prism is the minimum needed.
What were they thinking, especially with interchangeable lenses?
No peaking that I can see, nor any other indicators.
This is not a RED or an Arri Alexa camera; this is supposed to be a free-roaming camera aimed at a lower market. Especially in a format as small as Super-8, to not have critical focus aids is suicidal.
No single-frame release for animation.
Would that be so much to ask? If they want you to "return to the good old days", surely someone at Kodak would realize that animation on Super-8 was one of the creative tools the cameras offered.
No hot-shoe or any other provision for accessories.
"Gaff it on yourself" is really a bit much, both at that kind of price point and as a design decision in general.
Poor-looking ergonomics.
The bolt-on grip does not inspire comfort of operation, again, especially not without a real viewfinder.
So, what do you get for about five and a half grand?
Seemingly a cheap-and-odd looking camera with a couple of excellent features (lenses, sep audio).
Its designers seem to have been more in thrall with the 'coolness factor' of what they were creating, rather than with designing a solid tool that could well have been an excellent Super-8 production or home-movie camera.
With accessories like a screen hood, with correct exposure and a top-end lens, and with good post poroduction grading, you likely could shoot some nice Kodak Vision 50 negative with this (assuming the camera's registration is up to it), but it has been made way too difficult to get there.
I would never want to try a commercial assignment of any kind with this, nor would I want one for home use, even if it were cheaper, unless it got significantly upgraded.
Claus
Last edited by Claus Harding; October 19, 2024, 10:51 AM.
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