Wolverine-Hawkeye Telecine

[Stan Jelavic]

Thank you both. Very good inputs and advice. At this point I just thought to enable the users to get their own parts and potentially from a single supplier so that the parts have less variations. Since the whole project is open source I thought would be a good idea to have capstan included. But we will see. As you both pointed out it gets expensive pretty fast to try these different variations and the interest in capstan is not there.
BTW - the first position works better for me for active capstan and the second position is ok for a monitor and alert only.

[Bruce Davis]

Hi Stan, have not looked at them for some time, have to try and find them (have uploaded to One Drive).
It is a real problem as each printer is set up slightly differently, there is no strict standard to calibration, type of filament, speed, extrusion, Layer ht, temperature, slicer etc. it can be quite complex, printer settings and calibration are important to get the result you need, being able to edit the part in combination with local access to a printer to test is important for best results.

With the prices that you are being charged by Shapeways for each part, the experimentation to get things right could be expensive. With 3D printing there can be variations from one order you place to another perhaps some weeks/months later.

I have found that placing the toothed capstan in the second position is better than the first position (have only tried the two locations). Another very important improvement was to press fit a 2mm ID x 3mm OD brass extension tube over the 2mm dia capstan motor shaft. This gives more through support to the printed plastic part and a larger dia bearing surface area improving both concentric running and the wobble problem. It is also important to have two grub screws on opposing sides for any minor adjustment.

Kamel's suggestion about investing in a printer may be a valid one, but might not be worthwhile if capstan parts are the only use for it (how many are you ever going to require). There are cheap Chinese printers available for $180 to $300 (that's probably 10 parts from Shapeways), make sure the printer has a direct drive extruder, best for small intricate parts.

My Last Versions -
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtIUdJCJJJGigQdC...bP944?e=3BxHlY

Regards - Bruce

[Kamel Ikhlef]

Stan,
Here are my latest STL designs. I put pictures for some files.
I tried to classify the best to navigate. Not everything is useful but I left more flexibility and that leaves more choice.
(for example for those who do not want to put brass inserts or print in TPU rubber). I hope this will suit you.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K21...ew?usp=sharing

it starts to make a lot of 3D files to print at a certain cost.
Maybe the time has come for your project to invest in an 3D Printer ...
You will see, It's really quite exciting...

[Stan Jelavic]

Need some help from Kamel, Bruce and David on capstan. We have 3 different designs. Can you point me to your latest files for the back pulley, pulley front, toothed pulley and smooth pulley for both R8 and S8 and perhaps a few notes on how it works for you. Would like to order some of these from Shapeways and try them. This way we have a universal solution and anybody can order it from the single supplier. At this point there is not much demand for it but later on people could start asking. I did try some parts that you kindly sent me and they worked quite well with the motor in the 1st position and there was not much sideways jitter when I aligned the two retaining screws so that the cog wheel is almost perfectly parallel with the front panel.
This is for S8 (parts from David)
https://photos.app.goo.gl/79d6NFnS4mDL8Nyg9
R8 also works and the design was from Kamel but not his latest design because I had to drill a through hole to use two retaining screws.

[Stan Jelavic]

Good input Bruce. I also noticed that for Video Fred to excel the film has to be in good condition. Does not work very well with the poor film quality.

[Bruce Davis]

Hi all, thanks for your contributions, I found the latest version of Film9 to work very well in place of VideoFreds script, they have updated it (some plugins) and it no longer suffers from the start up dialog box popping telling you there are missing items.
I had a S8 wedding film that was very grainy (really bad like ants crawling on the screen) Film9 did a very good job of removing almost all of it, VideoFred did not perform very well.
Regards - Bruce

[Stan Jelavic]

Here is what I do David:
- Use my app to get the hdr lo and hi captures
- use enfuse to produce the hdr output
- use Fred's script to get the final video

You can send me the error log via email. Also maybe you can share a clip that gives you the problem and the script that you use. I can help you debug it since your AviSynth installation seems to be OK.

[David Brown]

Yes Stan, version and subtitles both worked. Loading image files and avis cause the crash???


I'm a little burned out on AVIsynth for a while. I'm moved on to Enfuse. I've added the plugin to Lightroom and it seems fine, but I won't be processing the movie captures there. I think I'll get your updates too and give that a go!

Just incase there's interest https://photographers-toolbox.com .The LR plugin was made for LR2, but it still works with the cloud version.

[Mattias Norberg]

David Brown here you have my Avisynth + plugins https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...Yr?usp=sharing
you have only the 32bit Plugins to if you do not want to use AvisynthRepository

copy AvisynthRepository to C drive root then you do not need to edit setavs.cmd before you run it
but it's better to copy it somewhere else but then you have to edit the path in setavs.cmd

you run setavs.cmd only when you install Avisynth or when you want to uninstall it

i have only test AvisynthRepository in one other computer and it did work but im not 100% that it works for you

C:\AvisynthRepository\AVSPLUS_x86\plugins that is the 32bit Plugin directory where you add more plugins if you need
but you can edit that to in setavs.cmd

there are plugins in C:\AvisynthRepository\AVS260_MT\plugins but it's a mix of 32bit and 64bit but i do not use that plugin directory and AvisynthRepository do not use it you can delete it if you want i have it only there if i need some old plugins

C:\AvisynthRepository\AVSPLUS_x64\plugins that is the 64bit Plugin directory where you add more plugins if you need
but you can edit that to in setavs.cmd


you see better what to do in POST Nr:1029 here https://8mmforum.film-tech.com/vbb/f...7426#post17426

[Stan Jelavic]

Have you tried the version.avs file David.
The file has a single line in it:
Version()

Here I ran it from VirtualDub2.
File->Open Video File->Version.avs

[Mattias Norberg]

Thanks

[David Brown]

Well, I'm going to remove AVIsynth and start over. I read warnings online about lingering registry values from one version becoming mixed up with newer installs.

Nothing works, not even Video Fred's scripts. Something is missing or corrupt.

AVIsynth+ and 3.0 were written to handle color depths above 24bit. I don't know if that will be problem with future 64bit captures. Since that will be for HDR, once blended (with Enfuse) they could be saved as 24bit before running AVIsynth scripts. Or, it might not matter.

Virtualdub has a script editor built in, even so I just use Notepad. I'm only there to change paths and maybe some settings.

Those film transfers you made are Very good Mattias!

[Stan Jelavic]

Thanks Kamel.

[Kamel Ikhlef]

OK Stan, thank you very much.
you have already helped me a lot.
If I can help you too, it will be my pleasure.

[Stan Jelavic]

You can always switch back. Let me know if you need help with this.