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Bill Phelps
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posted February 20, 2012 12:45 AM

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted March 02, 2012 03:38 PM

Northwest Passage
Length: 400"
Released by: MGM Films
Country: USA
Stock: AGFA
Lab: MGM Lab
Date of Print: this the last MGM released so maybe 1982

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Osi Osgood
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posted March 03, 2012 12:43 PM

Nice looking print there, Winbert!

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Douglas Meltzer
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posted May 02, 2012 06:40 PM

Slap Shot
Length: 400' version
Released by: Universal 8
Country: USA
Stock: Eastman
Lab: Technicolor

The Electric Horseman
Length: 2 x 400'
Released by: Universal 8
Country: USA
Stock: Eastman
Lab: Technicolor

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Osi Osgood
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posted May 03, 2012 01:11 PM

Boy! Both of those prints have faired very well Doug, which isn't always the case with Universal 8 especially, (unless your lucky enough to run into an unfaded batch of the good Kodak SP, like on my "Battlestar Galactica")

Greats screenshots from that "Northwest Passage" as well. One of the great qualities of Agfa, is that it can at times, add a slightly stronger green spectrum to a print, which in most cases, enhances the color and seems to bring it closer to a technicolor feel. I have the part 2 of the German Marketing Digest of STAR WARS, on Agfa, and the color is incredibly saturated and I must honestly say, the facial tones are actually better than what I have on my STAR WARS feature from Derann. It really is lovely to look at.

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James N. Savage 3
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posted May 03, 2012 06:12 PM

Those look great Doug, especially considering the source (Universal 8).

I heard once that in addition to film stock, chemicals had alot to do with how colors hold up over time. I have a few U8's that arent too bad, like Silent Running (I'll try to get some screen shots up later).

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted May 28, 2012 06:32 PM

Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Length: 400"
Released by: Columbia Films
Country: USA
Stock: AGFA
Lab:
Date of Print:

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James N. Savage 3
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posted May 28, 2012 07:44 PM

Oh yea- Nice one Winbert!

Was it a clam-shell or cardboard box?

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted May 29, 2012 02:36 AM

James,, It is in a plain box. I got this from our Greg Marshall. But either carboard or clamshell, it will not tell you the color condition as I have this title on both type of pacging and they have faded as usual.

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Christian Bjorgen
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posted May 29, 2012 01:57 PM

I have several prints on Eastman that have actually kept it's colour quite well, and especially my WDHM 200' of "Mickeys Trailer", which is as good as new!

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted May 29, 2012 01:59 PM

Gentleman Prefer Blondes
Length: 400"
Released by: Columbia Films
Country: USA
Stock: AGFA
Lab:
Date of Print:

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Hugh Thompson Scott
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posted May 29, 2012 02:20 PM

That looks to be a nice print of "Gentlemen" Winbert,the blacks
and flesh tones look very good,mind you the two girls look good
whatever.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted May 29, 2012 02:32 PM

Thanks Hugh.

I got this one too from Greg.

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Elyas Tesfaye
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posted March 20, 2013 08:26 PM

Hi all,
thanks to Doug Meltzer, our Mr. Moderator Extraordinaire, I am glad to put up these scenes from a digest of Carquake I used to own. Doug wanted to know what all scenes made it into this digest, so I will let the beautiful screen shots tell their story even better, as after all, a picture is worth a thousand words [Smile]

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Cheers,
ET

P.S: More super 8 print reviews coming soon [Smile]

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Douglas Meltzer
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posted March 21, 2013 08:27 AM

Elyas,

Thank you for the pictures. What a great looking print. Outstanding!

Doug

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David Kilderry
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posted March 21, 2013 10:11 AM

I had my print of Gentlemen Prefer Blondes from new. That blue background behind Marilyn and Jane was once vibrant and bright, alas mine looks a little grey looking now too.

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Laksmi Breathwaite
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posted March 21, 2013 12:27 PM

This Print looks good for its over 30 age FORBIDDEN PLANET Super 8mm Feature 4X600

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Joe Caruso
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posted March 21, 2013 12:49 PM

Alot of sights look good from FORBIDDEN PLANET - Shorty

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted March 21, 2013 01:08 PM

Lakshmi, with respect to your FORBIDDEN PLANET, it is not in the criteria of this thread because it was printed after the 8mm heyday (pre 1980)

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Joe Balitzki
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posted March 21, 2013 03:26 PM

Unless I am mistaken when Forbidden Planet was released on Super 8 the prints were struck on Low-Fade Stock so they should have good color...
[Roll Eyes]

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted March 21, 2013 03:38 PM

You are right Joe, this thread was created to see that those non low fade prints can sometime have good color too.

The aim of this thread is not to look down the old prints.

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Joe Balitzki
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posted March 21, 2013 04:16 PM

One thing that definitely helps the old prints hold their Color is the Lab that was used to make them. Careful processing and proper storage can sometimes make for a pleasant surprise upon projection.

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Joe Balitzki
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posted March 21, 2013 04:16 PM

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Laksmi Breathwaite
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posted March 21, 2013 04:35 PM

Hey what about my Columbia 7Th Voyage of Sinbad it still has good color. And it was made on non low stock. My Planet film was made by Red Fox that is why I posted it Winbert notice the name RED fox. I never new what stock they used?

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Osi Osgood
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posted March 22, 2013 01:44 PM

Your absolutely correct Joe, especially with eastman film stock (non LPP). I finally recieved my 2X400ft print of "The Blues Brothers" (Universal 8) and the colors are surprisingly spot on, (except, curiously, for one scene). However, because of how it "slid" through the chemical baths, it has the slightest "browning" that comes and goes through the two reels which is probably due to the speed that it was going through those before-mentioned "baths".

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