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Topic: What make collecting films on film special?
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David Ollerearnshaw
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1373
From: Penistone Sheffield UK
Registered: Oct 2012
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posted February 21, 2013 01:39 PM
I was thinking what make collecting films on film special?
The feel of film, threading the projector, even the noise of the projector all add to my enjoyment. Given the so called imperfections of both 8mm, 16mm and 35mm at the cinema. I feel they add to the enjoyment of watching a film. The projector noise soon fades away though.
Although most of my features are mounted on one spool for each film, and my shorts are made up into 'full supporting programme' Changing the reels all add to the enjoyment. Do you look for the reel change cue marks? Of course they have now gone, pixelated away.
The earlier part of my collecting for features is the UK standard of 4x400ft or 8 reels, and the cutdown versions from Ken, Columbia, Walton, Derann, and all the others.
The once deride "Look At Life" & Pathe Pictorials" all add to my enjoyment. I suppose nostalgic is kicking in there.
Trying to think when I first started film collecting, proberly about 1975. The thrill then is still there now, even more now I think.
Buying some super 8 now to add to my collection. Daughter loves Laurel & Hardy films so bought a few of them.
Some of the 400ft versions flow really well and tell the plot well. I do like the 4x400ft format though, most were very well done.
Some releases in the past I did not buy till they were available in scope format later. For some reason editing them down to 4x400ft didn’t bother me, the fact they weren’t in scope did. Double cutting in a way.
What are your feelings on what makes film collecting special?
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I love the smell of film in the morning.
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Steve Klare
Film Guy
Posts: 7016
From: Long Island, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted February 21, 2013 02:52 PM
When I was a little kid the lady across the street had something pretty unusual in the neighborhood: a home movie outfit. Every couple of months she'd set up her screen and cheapie silent GAF rojector and we watched her family films. I was seven years old, but I thought this was pretty fantastic and I wanted to do it too.
The Sears catalog had a camera and projector package for about $189, which is pretty close to a million when you haven't even got an allowance yet. The thought never quite left my head, though.
When I was in high school I got a minimum wage, part time job and I got my own movie camera and a couple of commercial prints. That Christmas I got a projector and I was in business at last! I had years of filmmaking and collecting, but college and dating and engagement and marriage and homeownership kind of pushed it all aside.
Then the internet came and I had opportunities to do it again that didn't even exist a few years earlier!
Why I do it now is because I have the chance to do it better than I ever did before. It's not just silents, but sound films played through my stereo. It's not a tripod screen, but a 110" diagonal rollup. It's not just one reel shorts, but full features. It's not one Kodak Moviedeck, but a small fleet of Elmos and Eumigs (and the Moviedeck too).
Maybe this is nostalgic, but the present is actually even better!
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All I ask is a wide screen and a projector to light her by...
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Joe Caruso
Film God
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From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted February 21, 2013 03:37 PM
What's special is, I mostly started by myself with allowances, errands/chores, some part-time work, all to buy my first projector (a SEARS 8mm), then a 16mm (used from school for $5), I got many films (albeit slowly), then the long study time in bulletins and catalogs, the earliest books on film hostory/collecting/storage - While my holdings were slim, I was learning before buying haphazardly, then began in earnest once I knew what I was doing in the gauges - As David rightly says, the whrr of the machine, the image, the tech on how a projector works, and that nice feeling on watching your efforts appear on the screen (or wall more likely) - Shorty
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Oemer Yalinkilic
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 547
From: Berlin, Germany
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted February 22, 2013 06:49 AM
Hi Vidar,
it is a matter of the equipment you have.
Most of you use for Super 8 the perfect equipment (for example Elmo with a 1.0 lens), but for example if you watch a 70mm print of Lawrence of Arabia or the new 4K digital version, than is 35mm, 16mm and Super 8 far away. But the most 70mm prints are red, so I prefer for old classics 35mm technicolor prints. At home is 35mm the best choice for me (only if you have the right compact projector, I have it) but 16mm is better in case of light output (I use Elmo 16CL Xenon). I have a fantastic print of Star Wars on Super 8, but I had in the past a original 16mm print and this was definitely better than a Super 8 print. I have Empire strikes back on 35mm, this is miles away better than the 16mm print I had also in the past.
So the plus for Super 8 is only the Stereo sound.
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