8mm Forum: Film transfer system

»	8mm Forum » 8mm Forum » Film transfer system

UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!

Author

Topic: Film transfer system

Albert Jacobs
Junior
Posts: 5
From: Silver Spring, MD, USA
Registered: Jul 2014

posted February 07, 2015 11:25 AM

I have tried what I think everything and nothing seems to work. I am talking about transfering my 8mm movie film to digital video. I have tried projecting onto a regular screen and using a digital camera, projecting onto a clean white surface and the camera. I have even tried the age old method of using the first surface mirror and a ground glass screen and video camera and nothing seems to work. Color washout, blurring images (even though I carefully focused). I think I have given up and bring it in for the professional. I heard of aerial transfer but can't find details. Shall I give up?

--------------------
I have no idea what you are talking about. I am just interested in getting information about 8mm film and what others are doing. Have no idea what ICQ ID or AIM ID are. If this not good enough, then......

| IP: Logged

Bob Pucci
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 520
From: Westerly,RI
Registered: Jun 2003

posted February 07, 2015 12:49 PM

I have done it by projecting a very small image (around 5 x 7 or 7 x 9) on a projection screen.I mounted my digital camera on a tripod for it to be steady.Also you will need a variable speed projector to sync it with the camera.I've done a 400 foot reel this way and results weren't that bad.

| IP: Logged

John Yapp
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 148
From: Telford England.
Registered: Dec 2011

posted February 07, 2015 01:48 PM

Bob, You don't need ground glass. Just get a camcorder with at least a 12-14 times zoom, and a 16mm projector lens that will fit in the lens barrel of the 8mm projector, then film straight off the gate. See results here form a eumig 810 fitted with a 16mm lens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtxjq_Jz36E

| IP: Logged

Martin Jones
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1269
From: Thetford , Norfolk,England
Registered: May 2008

posted February 07, 2015 03:23 PM

Great results, John!

Martin.

--------------------
Retired TV Service Engineer
Ongoing interest in Telecine....

| IP: Logged

Janice Glesser
Film Goddess

Posts: 3468
From: Sunnyvale, CA USA
Registered: Sep 2011

posted February 07, 2015 03:34 PM

Beautiful John. Is it possible you could post a picture of your setup. I'd like to see how you fit the 16 millimeter lens into the projector and how your camcorder frecords off of that. Great job!

--------------------
Janice

"I'm having a very good day!"
Richard Dreyfuss - Let It Ride (1989).

| IP: Logged

John Yapp
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 148
From: Telford England.
Registered: Dec 2011

posted February 07, 2015 03:42 PM

I'll try to make a little video sometime this week Janice. I think you'll be surprised just how "Heath Robinson" my set up is!
Also, I should mention that I pretty much learned everything I have put into practise from Martin Jones, who, in my experience, is more than happy to share his wisdom with those requesting it.

| IP: Logged

Brian Fretwell
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1785
From: London, UK
Registered: Jun 2014

posted February 08, 2015 08:49 AM

If my memory is good the aerial image system works by having a fairly large plan-convex lens at a distance from the projector and you focus the combination so the image is sharp at the flat surface of the lens. You then point the video camera at this and focus it on the image.
I believe it was originally developed to put cartoon images into live action films as the cels placed on the lens would be in focus as well as the filmed image and would be self matting. Wikipedia is rather vague on the subject, I read about it in a special effects book many years ago.

| IP: Logged

James Wilson
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 230
From: Norwich, UK
Registered: Jan 2015

posted February 09, 2015 06:20 AM

Hi John,

Great job, I`m with Janice on this one, I`d also like a video or pictures your set up, if it`s not too much trouble.
Regards, James.

--------------------
James Wilson

| IP: Logged

Steve Burton
Junior
Posts: 1
From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
Registered: Sep 2015

posted September 28, 2015 10:58 PM

John,

Would like to also see the photos of John's setup. The sample demo is very impressive.

| IP: Logged

Janice Glesser
Film Goddess

Posts: 3468
From: Sunnyvale, CA USA
Registered: Sep 2011

posted September 28, 2015 11:42 PM

Steve...John posted a video of his telecine setup in this thread:

http://8mmforum.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=009763

...AND Welcome to the Forum!

--------------------
Janice

"I'm having a very good day!"
Richard Dreyfuss - Let It Ride (1989).

| IP: Logged

All times are Central

Printer-friendly view of this topic

UBB.classic^TM 6.3.1.2