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Topic: WOT ! No film on the take up spool????!!!!
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Melvin England
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 707
From: Hull, East Yorkshire, UK
Registered: Feb 2016
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posted May 31, 2017 06:14 PM
Well..... it happened to me for the first time tonight after over 40 years of showing super 8. I was happily watching a rather full 400' reel of film (Part 4 of the collectors club edition of "Carve Her Name With Pride" for the record)and failed to notice that for some inexplicable reason, the take up spool hadn't moved.It had no obstruction, it just hadn't.....moved. 400' of film strewn on the floor between the back of the projector stand and the wall. O.M.G.!This is going to be one nightmare to unravel and clear up.
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I took the end of the film, attached it to the front spool and started rewinding it myself...s l o w l y ... by hand, waiting for the knots to appear. Well, the celluloid Gods were looking down on me tonight.... not one single knot. The film must have just layered up on itself in such a way that none of it wrapped itself around the bits from 5 minutes earlier. If I had moved either the projector or,worse, the film, I think it would have been "bye bye" Virginia McKenna as the unknotting of it would have been impossible.
I was lucky......VERY lucky !
Has anyone else experienced this at all? What was your outcome?
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Steve Klare
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From: Long Island, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted May 31, 2017 08:31 PM
Bill, I think it was "Ore Extra 225", since I got a print a few months ago myself!
There's a story about the great Canadian nature filmmaker Bill Mason. Somebody who had been kind of a mentor early on came over to his house to watch a pre-release print of Bill Mason's feature film Waterwalker.
Bill hung the largest screen he could find in front of his fireplace, but found his throw was too short to fill it, so he backed the machine up through the living room, then through the porch doors, then out onto the porch. He finally filled up the screen with the back legs of the projector on the railing and the take-up reel hanging out into space.
The screening was going great until he went back to change reels and found an entire reel of brand new 16mm film on the ground mixed with the dirt and the pine needles, and the dead leaves and the bugs!
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All I ask is a wide screen and a projector to light her by...
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Tom Photiou
Film God
Posts: 4837
From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted June 02, 2017 05:23 PM
Many many years ago this happened to me, however, only the once in nearly 40 years of projecting. It was on a Eumig 810DLUX.
Ever since that time i now have a habit of glancing back during a show at the two reels going around to make sure all is good. it is literally a fleeting glance but its a habit worth getting in to. I always sit next to the machine, (just forward to be just past the front of it, on the lower shelf and forward, (right next to me on the left), is the amp, i am often adjusting the sound slightly in order for certain points in the film to have a bit more impact.
On the rear of our ST1200HD's we now always leave the rear green guide inward . This is one less part used and one less part that will scratch, not that ours have had that problem, When the leader pops out the back i let enough come out to flick it up and over the core of the 800 take up spool. My ""manual auto thread" works perfectly every time as long as the leaders are trimmed and curved correctly. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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