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Topic: Indiana Jones and the last crusade

Flavio Stabile
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posted September 12, 2011 02:08 PM

Looking for it, CHC release.

Thanks
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Graham Sinden
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posted September 12, 2011 04:32 PM

I think this can still be ordered new from CHC.

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Douglas Meltzer
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posted September 12, 2011 05:25 PM

And it's a beauty of a print!

Doug

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Flavio Stabile
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posted September 13, 2011 07:22 AM

Thanks Graham!

I think it could quiet expensive buying as new...

A good second-hand copy would satisfy me completely! [Wink]

Anyway I take the opportunity of your reply (thanks to Doug too!) to clarify a doubt I have:

as far as I knew CHC releases are only on acetate, but a friend of mine has a German copy of this film (and The Mask of Zorro too, which is another film I locking for...) in polyestar.
Are these copies from CHC or different versions of these two films exist from CHC itself?

Thanks
Flavio

PS Any idea of the cost of a brand new copy from CHC as you suggested?

[ September 13, 2011, 08:32 AM: Message edited by: Flavio Stabile ]

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Graham Sinden
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posted September 14, 2011 05:42 PM

Flavio, Phil told me that new features are now £500 GBP upwards depending on the length. Yes quite expensive. Yes all CHC releases are on Acetate.

I only mentioned that is because you could be waiting for a very long time to find a secondhand copy come up for sale. Good luck.

Graham S

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Flavio Stabile
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posted September 15, 2011 06:31 AM

Thanks Graham!

Sure... another problem is to find the buyer for the second copy that should be printed... I will continue my search for a second hand copy, if possible!

Furthemore, still curious to know the origin of the polyestar copies if not from CHC....

Flavio

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Flavio Stabile
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posted September 29, 2011 03:17 PM

Just found this, but without stripe...

Indiana Jones on EBAY

...just wondering if I can have it striped and what could be the cost...

Any idea or suggestion?

Thanks
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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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posted September 29, 2011 06:21 PM

All CHC releases can be supplied both on acetate or polyester, at the moment.

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Flavio Stabile
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posted September 30, 2011 12:34 AM

Thanks Gian!

I meant indeed this: if I buy the mute copy on ebay, is it possible then have it striped by some service? Any idea about the cost of this operation, if possible?

Thanks
Flavio

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Lee Purkis
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posted September 30, 2011 06:57 AM

Derann were the only company that could stripe polyester prints successfully as far as i am aware. their striping machine is no more though, i think it sat with the paste inside the machine for a long period and got blocked up. I tried to contact them to see if they still had the machine along with their sound recorders, i wanted to buy them and get them up and running again but they never replied. So it's probably all gone down to the rubbish tip by now [Frown]

Seems like another suitable machine has been found in italy though according to CHC's new newsletter so we may start to see striped polyester prints again in the future. I think CHC realise this is what needs to happen as the acetate prints are going to be harder to shift than the polyester prints for sure.

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Adam Deierling
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posted September 30, 2011 09:13 AM

Just talked to Steve Osbourne. He seems to think it would cost well over $150 to restripe. Thats if anyone is even able to do it. Unless you intend running a dvd in sync, its not worth the money. That is of coarse if you really, really, really, really want it lol.

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Lee Purkis
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posted September 30, 2011 12:48 PM

I think it has to be done with a special oxide paste. Only Derann had the formula & machine to do this, normal sound stripe won't stay stuck to polyester. Fuji in Japan can also sound stripe polyester but only at the processing stage.

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Flavio Stabile
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posted September 30, 2011 01:03 PM

Just found this discussion that answered all my questions

Sound striping topic

Meanwhile the seller has raised the price...

F.

[ September 30, 2011, 04:51 PM: Message edited by: Flavio Stabile ]

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Osi Osgood
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posted September 30, 2011 01:39 PM

There is still a firm in the UK that sound stripes films. I don't know if they can handle this, however. They are "EVT" (I believe that's part of the name or thee name) and they provide this service ...

However, of course, you have to pay for shipping it backj and forth and it will run up the price of buying that non-striped print. I would just suggest doing a sync from the DVD audio. Much cheaper.

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Adam Deierling
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posted September 30, 2011 01:41 PM

How do you run a dvd in sync with a print?

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Ricky Daniels
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posted October 01, 2011 04:34 AM

Adam,

The principle is outlined in this link...

http://www.super8sync.com/super8sync/Elmo_Synchronizers_P1008GS.html

Pedro has produced quite a few Sync-pulse generating units to deal with the sync pulse driving of, in particular, the GS1200 (and other projectors) in tandem with DVD's of varying video formats.

I'm not sure if he is still selling units though so you may have to do some searching but this info should get you started.

One day you'll be able to enjoy that print of Return of the Jedi with 5.1 audio [Wink]

Best,
Rick

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Keith Ashfield
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posted October 01, 2011 04:50 AM

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Meanwhile the seller has raised the price...

He's probably 2monitoring the interest" on this forum?

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Ricky Daniels
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posted October 01, 2011 05:01 AM

I saw that too, he's slapped another £40 on the price cos it was £250 recently! [Eek!]

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Flavio Stabile
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posted October 01, 2011 07:40 AM

..which is now closer to price asked here

Same Indiana on Ebay

Anyway, the cost for striping (EVT service in the topics I mention) is quite high... so I continue to search for it.

Hi Keith! I had the same thoughts...

F.

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Ralf Hoff
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posted October 02, 2011 05:00 AM

[ November 10, 2011, 09:30 AM: Message edited by: Ralf Hoff ]

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Ricky Daniels
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posted October 02, 2011 05:27 AM

It's been listed on several eBay's several times and each time the price has dropped until the latest listing where it was at it's lowest then shot up again, no doubt after Forum monitoring! [Wink]

A mute print without sound stripe is obviously going to be worth less to most than a version with a soundtrack, the latest price would be a good starter price for a version with a soundtrack.

[ November 10, 2011, 03:02 AM: Message edited by: Ricky Daniels ]

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Flavio Stabile
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posted October 02, 2011 05:50 AM

I agree with you Ricky... I remember you offered here in the forum your copy and I missed to take it! [Frown]

Flavio

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Ralf Hoff
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posted October 17, 2011 09:19 AM

[ November 10, 2011, 09:31 AM: Message edited by: Ralf Hoff ]

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