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Topic: Elmo GS1200 Scratch parts
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Leon Norris
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 958
From: Elkins Park, PA, USA
Registered: Jun 2012
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posted November 01, 2018 11:31 AM
I want to thank all the Interest in these parts that can scratch film! I was really surprised by the response! These GS1200 parts are selling very well! I still have all film path parts! In stock! So Remember All Parts are Brand NEW! I still have arms, legs handles, circuit boards, knobs, pressure plates, Aperture plates, sound heads, rollers,relays,solenoids, Amp I C,s ,ESS Assy. Governor circuit boards, switches, micro switches, and more! Contact me if you need anything! Also I will take trades on films super 8 sound only! Or part trade part cash! Leon Norris
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Evan Samaras
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 513
From: Queens, NY, USA
Registered: Oct 2015
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posted November 12, 2018 11:56 AM
Actually Leon, they were in one single ziplock bag, all together but loose. One did actually have a terribly mauled plastic bag closed by a single staple. I will give you that.
You said anything used is sold as is... however, this thread is for BRAND NEW parts, and even the invoice you sent me stated NEW under PART, so which is it Leon, are they new, or used?
You are free to stand by your word that these parts are new. Individuals of this forum can use the pictures provided to understand what BRAND NEW SCRATCH FREE PARTS from Leon Norris look like. And that's that on my end! Thanks! Evan Samaras.
*Edited to include the following receipt accompanying the purchase. Note the Parts marked as NEW
The film related circle on the bottom is for a topic in a different subsection.
[ November 12, 2018, 01:42 PM: Message edited by: Evan Samaras ]
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Evan Samaras
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 513
From: Queens, NY, USA
Registered: Oct 2015
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posted November 13, 2018 11:50 AM
First, I'd like to thank everyone for their support. Whether it has been public or through private messages. It is because of this community that I am gaining a better understanding of what to look for.
Graham, thank you for the details. I did my best to capture similar pictures. I can say for sure that two pieces are used and worn, without a doubt! One piece may actually be in good condition, but maybe you can offer your opinion on the matter.
1. NEW Film Slot
In the images you can clearly see the wear of the film against the side wall in the first picture.
The additional picture shows other wear and grime!
2. NEW Thread Button.
Earlier post shows the grime between the ridges! These pictures shows a bit more of the warp and grime.
3. NEW Sprocket Side #2
I have to say, this appears to be the cleanest piece. There is some wear on the exterior in the form of scratch and dirt, but the film path looks almost very clean. This is the piece that actually came in the mauled plastic bag closed by a single staple. Opinions?
In response to Leon, yes there was an offer to exchange the parts. HOWEVER, if you are standing by your word that these are ALL NEW PARTS, EVEN AFTER THESE PICTURES, THAT CLEARLY SHOW USE, then I would rather save my money than spend it on shipping for items that will be in the same condition! I will just be throwing away even more money on shipping! I think this will make sense to others as well. You said No refunds on used items. However, according to you, these are NEW items, so then refund could be an option. I again offered to cover shipping in both directions, which I thought was MORE than fair considering items were not as described.
I have a direct question for you Leon. Based on these pictures. Are you still firm on the idea that ALL of these parts that you sent me were New and Unused as advertised?
Also, Leon, if you haven't seen the Exorcist thread, maybe you should hop on over and see the screen shots of the "good color" print, instead of pushing me to re-record it and sell it. I did not join this hobby to work at re-recording films for sale. I want to collect films I enjoy projecting! Maybe you have an actual good color print of the Exorcist to exchange as well? ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) I'm not sure what your excuse on the print is, but you have only been ignoring addressing it.
Thank you again everyone. I hope this thread has been helpful.
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Jason Smith
Master Film Handler
Posts: 358
From: Tohoku, Japan
Registered: Oct 2015
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posted November 13, 2018 06:40 PM
Hi Leon,
I am interested in buying some of the parts such as the sound head part and sound head press assembly but I have not because I am not sure how to tell if my assembly needs replacing.
However, after seeing how this situation has been handled, I am not sure if I would purchase the parts.
On the first picture that Evan uploaded, it shows a scratch on the wall of that front guide. That is obviously a used part that came from a GS-1200. For those of you who may not know, that is one of the spots where the film rubs into the guide and leave that distinct scratch on the side of the wall.
It says in your original post that all parts are new but that obviously was not the case as far as this front guide. Add on top of that the fact that some of the parts were received dirty, I would not want an exchange. I would want a full refund.
Furthermore, there is the exorcist print that you says has good color but is obviously red that you sold him.
If there was only one item that had a problem, I think Evan would be more understanding and ready to just do an exchange.
eBay has a policy that items not as described can be returned for a full refund and I would expect nothing less on this forum.
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