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Topic: Blu-Ray Quality - Is it me....?
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Thomas Murin, Jr.
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posted January 25, 2010 11:39 PM
I dunno. Why trash Blu-Ray simply because some people want a better home video experience? DVD is good enough for you? Great! But don't bash a format you don't even own. It's bad form.
The lack of classic films on Blu-Ray is simple: they aren't selling well. The studios would LOVE to put more out and more are coming but they need the sales to be there. It was the same with DVD in the beginning. Most of the classic films only really started coming out on DVD within the past 5 years or so.
It's A Wonderful Life was released on Blu-Ray last November along with A Christmas Carol (1951) and Miracle on 34th Street. I only have ACC which looks fantastic. Reviews of IAWL are mixed but most seem happy with it. Haven't heard anything about MO34S.
Yes there are some compression issues with Blu-Ray. Season 1 of Robin Hood has obvious macroblocking and several titles I have from Echo Bridge have compression issues.
However, we MUST remember that this is a new format. These issues will be worked out in time as they were with DVD. Look at any early DVD and you'll see pretty much the same issues.
For the record, the actual video difference between DVD and Blu-Ray is 6%. That's it. So it just comes down to condition of the source, the mastering and pressing.
As for Wal-Mart, they only carry the new titles for any given week along with a select few popular catalog titles. It's the same at every Wal-Mart store I've been in. Target, too but their catalog selection is much larger. Best Buy has the biggest Blu-Ray section I've seen in a store with several hundred titles.
It really too soon to say "the public has spoken about Blu-Ray". DVD did not overtake VHS overnight. It took a couple of years. Blu-Ray really just came into it's own last year. Give it a couple more years.
Big things are in store for Blu-Ray. Lucasfilm announced last year that work has begun on the Star Wars titles. The original three Indiana Jones films are rumored for 4th quarter this year as well as the Jurassic Park films and several other Spielberg titles. Several of James Cameron's films may be out this year including The Abyss and True Lies.
Finally, Gone With The Wind and Wizard Of OZ were big sellers last fall so that bodes well for future classic films. Blu-Ray is just warming up so don't count it out yet!
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Thomas Murin, Jr.
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posted January 26, 2010 07:04 PM
Michael O'Regan, my comments about Blu-Ray bashing were not directed at you. I was speaking in generalities.
Yes, better picture quality CAN increase enjoyment of a film good or bad. No, it will not make the film better or worse as that is strictly a personal opinion and has nothing to do with picture quality.
Your point seems to be that the movie is the same no matter how high the quality is. True, but ask Steven Spielberg which he would prefer, VHS or Blu-Ray? Which do you think he would choose? It's all the same, right?
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Thomas Murin, Jr.
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posted January 27, 2010 10:55 PM
Michael, I was just saying that Spielberg would choose the format that would best represent his movies and right now, that's Blu-Ray.
Look if you're happy with what you have, fine. Some of us want better than "good enough". What's so hard to understand about that?
You know, I suspect that if we ever meet in person, we would either become very good friends or I would try and shove a Blu-Ray disc down your throat! ![[Wink]](wink.gif) ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Jim Schrader, I don't understand your DVD-R question. As I said, upconversion is a scam. All that's happening is that the player is taking the 480i/p content and scaling it to whatever resolution the player is set for. The resolution on the disc itself cannot change. Any improvement is because the scaling is bypassing the noise reduction and other filtering many DVD players have.
I actually spent some time once, flipping through the resolutions on my Oppo and I never once saw a difference in the DVD's picture quality. It looked the same at all resolutions no matter what the player was set at. I eventually left the player set at 480i because the video projector upscales the signal to 720p anyway.
It's the same with DVD-R. Whatever is recorded on it will still be the same quality no matter the resolution it's being shown at.
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